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Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by carver9
Scans

And yes, that creature was Death:
http://i.imgur.com/f7L7eUV.jpg

-From Superman: Where Is Thy Sting (2001).

Delta1938 True King of House of El

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Which is?

Superman's dynamic nature.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman vs. Death:
http://i.imgur.com/C7eacXy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oKICGvu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MyauOPJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ugkPaNP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4JFZS22.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QyjTFY6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tGtfhby.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jD7G69A.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cR2H7t4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2VtHtZY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aBzXk51.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OW2YVZF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yjqmeYZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bZvhxk9.jpg
And as you can see, this iteration of Death was capable of operating on a universal scale, as the above scans state.
And yes, that creature was Death:
http://i.imgur.com/f7L7eUV.jpg
-From Superman: Where Is Thy Sting (2001).

Where's the fight?

Also, what Universal fts does it have? Was something shown on panel? Scans were to small.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by carver9
Now tell us the things Black Adam, Thor, and other Heralds has done. Lol...one shot Despero? Black Adam has fought entire teams with some consisting of trans characters. Ripped through Spectre skull with ease and ripped Amazo head clean off. Adam doesn't have a single low showing and not a single loss against another Herald. Guess what he is ranked as on KMC?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Delta1938
Superman's dynamic nature.

😂

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

Originally posted by Galan007
Incorrect.
Firestorm KO'd him with an omni-directional blast:
🙂

Damn you, Galan.

I was going to draft FS for my mid herald team. Carver would've been all safe and secure, then throw a hissy fit when he saw that.

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by Galan007
Incorrect.
Firestorm KO'd him with an omni-directional blast:
🙂

I remember as I read all of his appearances, I went "Damn, that would have been the nigh-perfect record if not for this.

On the other hand, that makes Firestorm's feat that much greater.

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But let's put this Black Adam thing to rest.

Sure, he has his high showings (carver, never knew all Amazos were the same!)

Yet, he is also:

Slower than Jay Garrick:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/109694/2893490-1973624_black_adam_and_jay_3_super.jpg
Note, it's not his speed that flags...it's his strength.

Weaker than Captain Nazi
KOed by FS.

Rao Kal El DJ FrostByte

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But let's put this Black Adam thing to rest.
Sure, he has his high showings (carver, never knew all Amazos were the same!)
Yet, he is also:
Slower than Jay Garrick:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/109694/2893490-1973624_black_adam_and_jay_3_super.jpg
Note, it's not his speed that flags...it's his strength.
Weaker than Captain Nazi
KOed by FS.

Why are you picking on the mentally challenged?

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At least he is questioning Galan, that shifty ratbag 👆.

The reason the scans are so tiny is because his Photoshop skills were bad.

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yet, he is also:
Slower than Jay Garrick:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/109694/2893490-1973624_black_adam_and_jay_3_super.jpg
Note, it's not his speed that flags...it's his strength.

I don't see how being slower than Jay Garrick is a low showing. The fact that he keeps up with Jay Garrick is a high one. This is basically BA's highest speed showing post-Crisis...

When they try this again, Black Adam is shown close to him when Jay reached lightspeed.

I agree with Captain Nazi one (though the dude's stuck goes up and down at the drop of a hat). It's not that bad though. But given Black Adam's standard, yeah, it is.

Surtur Restricted

Come on guys, it's one thing to drag Superman through the dirt and try to wank him to epic proportions. Leave poor Black Adam alone.

One Big Mob Dead

Originally posted by Philosophía
I don't see how being slower than Jay Garrick is a low showing. The fact that he keeps up with Jay Garrick is a high one. This is basically BA's highest speed showing post-Crisis...
When they try this again, Black Adam is shown close to him when Jay reached lightspeed.
I agree with Captain Nazi one (though the dude's stuck goes up and down at the drop of a hat). It's not that bad though. But given Black Adam's standard, yeah, it is.

He still knocked him out though.

One could argue it was mere leverage too since there's a reason they call it a rape choke. Meh. Average showing for him, high showing for Captain Motherland

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Average showing for him, high showing for Captain Motherland

I'd say it's a low showing for him but not a low showing in general [if you catch my drift], all things considered. I mean Black Adam's average is really high.

He's like a kid who gets an A in class, when he has only A+s, while the other kids in class, even the better ones, struggle between A- and A, with an occasional A+. And the other kids are the rest of the top heralds [excluding Superman 😛]

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@Philo: Its not a low showing, but substantiates his status as a mid herald, at least in terms of speed.

Then, as per Jays' words, his strength was what was giving out, not his speed....and this was at mach 500.

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I truly would love if Superman was consistently a cosmic entity. I'd love it if he could slap around Silver Surfer, own Thanos, and at least be able to put up a tiny fight against a cosmic(like Thanos vs Odin).

These are all things I would love to be true. I'd love to be able to say "Superman can defeat Odin" and not sound like a crazy person when saying it.

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Just to be clear: I don't hate BA, I just hate carver.

Surtur Restricted

Nobody should hate Black Adam, the guy poked out Psycho Pirates eyes like a boss.

By "poked out his eyes" I obviously meant "ripped his face off with his two fingers".

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
@Philo: Its not a low showing, but substantiates his status as a mid herald, at least in terms of speed.

How do you define 'mid herald' in terms of speed? Anything below the Flashes? He's still faster than basically every 'herald' leveler minus a handful.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then, as per Jays' words, his strength was what was giving out, not his speed....and this was at mach 500.

Well, since acceleration is based on muscle strength in his case [and not speed force], I don't see how this is a bad showing. And, like I said, when they did it again, BA was keeping up right at the gates of lightspeed.

One Big Mob Dead

Originally posted by Philosophía
I'd say it's a low showing for him but not a low showing in general [if you catch my drift], all things considered. I mean Black Adam's average is really high.
He's like a kid who gets an A in class, when he has only A+s, while the other kids in class, even the better ones, struggle between A- and A, with an occasional A+. And the other kids are the rest of the top heralds [excluding Superman 😛]

Makes sense.

Though I think a lot of times real logic is lost in these types of things. And not sciency bullshit, but actual stuff that matters. Hitting in the balls, rapechokes, etc. I mean it's hard to get out of a rapechoke, the whole purpose afterall is for control. And a momentary control with the rapechoke doesn't mean a strength advantage imo. It's not like he was losing the whole time, it's just all of the sudden he was in a rapechoke and then he knocked out Nazi and possibly himself.

Just my two pesos.