Originally posted by Sin I AM
Abhi do you think surfer could effectively use weakness exploit to beat sm?
In reality though, Surfer doesn't do that. It's the fabrication of overzealous marvel fans who think just because Surfer has an open powerset he can do anything to anyone.
You'll rarely see Surfer beating someone with versatility. Comic characters just aren't built that way.
Originally posted by abhilegend
It's possible if we take CBR routine.In reality though, Surfer doesn't do that. It's the fabrication of overzealous marvel fans who think just because Surfer has an open powerset he can do anything to anyone.
You'll rarely see Surfer beating someone with versatility. Comic characters just aren't built that way.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
But he has casually drained opponents before..
Originally posted by Genii96
Surfer dosent use his versatility to beat opponents?remind us how he threatened to make kallark his ***** again?
Originally posted by Genii96
Nah,just cuz he shits on ur fav,dosent mean u should have nightmares about him...
Is this the best you can do?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Really? How rarely would you say? Like if you had to estimate, how many times would you say he's done it?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
How does it compare in relative to Pre DCnU Supes winning a fight via speedblitz in his far greater number of appearances?
The victory doesn't comes through a speedblitz though.
Like I said comic characters aren't built that way. Superman beating someone using raw strength is far more prominent than him using his speed to beat someone.
That's Flash.
Originally posted by abhilegend
More than 5% as he uses his speed far more often.The victory doesn't comes through a speedblitz though.
Like I said comic characters aren't built that way. Superman beating someone using raw strength is far more prominent than him using his speed to beat someone.
That's Flash.
Also, against someone like a brick... energy blast ARE versatility.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Oh so you're counting instances OUTSIDE of actually winning the fight for Supes? Seems that you should give Surfer the same benefit...Also, against someone like a brick... energy blast ARE versatility.
It's his primary power.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Does he uses anything other than energy blasts and board attacks in most of his fights? I've read pretty much everything Surfer has ever done and I don't think he uses anything other than occasional energy manipulation.It's his primary power.
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wait you're dodging the question, I'm not asking about generic use of speed in combat via moving around the battlefield or bullrushing, I'm talking about an outright speedblitz(something commonly espoused on the forum as being an "in character" way for Supes to win a fight).
I disagree with that. That's my opinion though.
Superman doesn't goes in speedblitz mode from the start of a fight.
With his strength, he would kill anyone at Herald level with such a tactic.
Basically, for every instance I can post of Surfer winning a fight via versatility, how many can you post of Supes winning speedblitz?
More than you can.
If you want to include instances of speedblitzes that don't actually end the fight that's fine. In that case though, how many instances can you post of him speedblitzing in fights for every versatility feat I can post of Surfer in combat? Keep in mind that Pre DCnU Supes has far more fights to his credit so it should be quite a few if it's more in character for Supes to speedblitz in a fight than it is for Surfer to use versatility in a fight.
Superman uses his speed in some way in almost all his fights. It's not just "flurry of punches" which is a speedblitz if you are thinking so.
Speed is an intrinsic part of how Superman fights.