Originally posted by Adam GrimesI never made that claim I simply said superman was ko'd in one instance and not in another. That's called discerning the facts. I've never heard you make a legitimate point in your life. Shame. Kurse wins. Far more capable and powerful guy than the crybaby known as Zod.
Either you don't know how to express yourself or you backed down from your ridiculous claim.I'm fine with both, DD. 👆
Originally posted by Robtard
No idea what Void's trying with those scans, I'm hoping he's just having a goof, but people using the oil rig as a standard showing for MoS is both dishonest and silly, it's classic lowballing. He wasn't fully powered at that point in time and we see him gain more power after his birth father's speech to test himself.
I understand your point, but I don't think it's as cut and dry and you're making it out to be. For example, I'm not convinced Superman hadn't tested his limits in strength. We see very early on, as a young boy, he was already moving school buses out of water. It's also specifically noted after said event "this isn't the first time Clark has done something like this". He clearly , and without ambiguity had been testing himself since he was a very young boy. He had almost the same level of sun exposure by the time of the Zod encounter and the oil rig. They were pretty close together in sequence. Thus his solar exposure was very much the same, when coupled with the fact that he's been actively trying to lift heavy things since a young boy. I don't think it's any kind of given he increased his strength after the talk with his dad. I believe the more logical line of thinking is that the talk was more towards things he hadn't tried yet... Stuff like flying and other abilities he had no idea he had. Those are what Jor_El was referring to imo. Not strength, we had already been testing and knew he had since a very young age.
The world engine feat gets greatly overblown. He literally barely did anything to the city, after what, 20 pulses. I mean the majority of the city was still standing just fine. People were shown running around very close to the pulse. It appeared to take out most of a building per shot. Not overly impressive imo.
Originally posted by quanchi112Try to be brave for once and go through with your ridiculousness.
I never made that claim I simply said superman was ko'd in one instance and not in another. That's called discerning the facts. I've never heard you make a legitimate point in your life. Shame. Kurse wins. Far more capable and powerful guy than the crybaby known as Zod.
What conclusion do those facts lead you to?
Zod wins.
I don't know why people keep bringing up Kurse no selling Thor's punches when Thor is horribly weak compared to the Kryptonians. A full powered Mjolnir strike on the Hulk sent him flying about 30 feet and crumpled a Harrier jet's tail. Faora simply snapped Kal over her head and he flew about a quarter mile through concrete walls and did irreparable damage to a reinforced steel bank vault door. Thor's punch made Hulk spin 360 degrees? An uppercut from Zod sent Kal to the top of a skyscraper. Kurse lifted a boulder. Zod kicked a satellite out of orbit and regularly caught/blocked Kal's punches.
On the subject of speed, all of the Kryptonians that fought displayed some kind of superhuman speed. Faora's was obvious. Inside the IHOP Kal covered a distance of about 20 feet in one second from a sitting position, running the whole way. Nam-Ek deftly caught Kal by the ankles when he tried to charge Faora. And Zod displayed super human reaction times when he was flying through the buildings in Metropolis while turning on a dime.
As for skill you all need to watch that last fight again. Kal was getting his ass kicked. Zod was blocking and countering all over the place. From what I remember Kurse didn't do much more than brawling. In his defense: he didn't really need to, his strength and hardiness allowed him to walk through everyone he faced.
Durability. As I already stated, Zod went up against the far bigger gun and could only be stopped by severing his spinal cord.
Zod gives Kurse the puny god treatment.
Originally posted by TheGrat1😂
Zod wins.I don't know why people keep bringing up Kurse no selling Thor's punches when Thor is horribly weak compared to the Kryptonians. A full powered Mjolnir strike on the Hulk sent him flying about 30 feet and crumpled a Harrier jet's tail. Faora simply snapped Kal over her head and he flew about a quarter mile through concrete walls and did irreparable damage to a reinforced steel bank vault door. Thor's punch made Hulk spin 360 degrees? An uppercut from Zod sent Kal to the top of a skyscraper. Kurse lifted a boulder. Zod kicked a satellite out of orbit and regularly caught/blocked Kal's punches.
On the subject of speed, all of the Kryptonians that fought displayed some kind of superhuman speed. Faora's was obvious. Inside the IHOP Kal covered a distance of about 20 feet in one second from a sitting position, running the whole way. Nam-Ek deftly caught Kal by the ankles when he tried to charge Faora. And Zod displayed super human reaction times when he was flying through the buildings in Metropolis while turning on a dime.
As for skill you all need to watch that last fight again. Kal was getting his ass kicked. Zod was blocking and countering all over the place. From what I remember Kurse didn't do much more than brawling. In his defense: he didn't really need to, his strength and hardiness allowed him to walk through everyone he faced.
Durability. As I already stated, Zod went up against the far bigger gun and could only be stopped by severing his spinal cord.
Zod gives Kurse the puny god treatment.
Ridiculous post of the day.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Prior to his flight, Zod was jumping around and crawling on building somewhat like Hulk, which is why I gave him mobility advantage.Though come to think of it, did Zod ever display any speed feats that weren't him flying? I know Faora had some speed feats minus flying but can't remember Zod doing any.
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Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Full powered hammer strike huh?
He had not charged it with lightning which means it was a strike that he perform purely with his physical strength. What are you trying to imply that as he rose up from his knees and swung the hammer across Hulk's jaw love that that was just supposed to be a love tap?
Originally posted by TheGrat1
He had not charged it with lightning which means it was a strike that he perform purely with his physical strength. What are you trying to imply that as he rose up from his knees and swung the hammer across Hulk's jaw love that that was just supposed to be a love tap?
No, but it wasn't a full powered hammer shot either. Even without a lightning charge, Thor can swing his hammer around to get a stronger shot in (like he did with the rock golem).
And even if we do say that it was a full Mjolnir hit that sent Hulk flying, Kurse took a mjolnir shot to the back and it seemed to just glance off him. That should give you an idea of how much more durable Kurse is.
Besides, all Zod ever took were punches from Superman. Kurse took on alien/magical/advanced weaponry from superhumans.