Zod is way faster on land, he doesnt need flight to outmaneuver.. this is evident by proxy in Faoras example..also he is a very skilled hand to hand combatant.. he's a bred soldier, even though Jor El got the upper hand on him you could see him bust out some moves at the beginning of MOS..Kurse doesnt have any finesse like that.
Originally posted by relentless1
Zod is way faster on land, he doesnt need flight to outmaneuver.. this is evident by proxy in Faoras example..also he is a very skilled hand to hand combatant.. he's a bred soldier, even though Jor El got the upper hand on him you could see him bust out some moves at the beginning of MOS..Kurse doesnt have any finesse like that.
You're aware that Zod and Faora are two different people, right?
It's going to be one long ass fight, they both have pretty insane durability. The main issue is that it was never established what it actually toke to damage Kurse to a significant degree, likewise Zod didn't get a single scracth from being beaten around the city by Superman. The main difference to me is that Zod seemed (again to me) stronger then Kurse, so in the end I see Zod outlasting Kurse rather then the other way around. But it's close and could really imo go either way.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
"Feats" are not interchangeable. You cannot give Zod Faora's showings.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You're aware that Zod and Faora are two different people, right?
That's kind of silly logic IMO.
There's no reason to think Zod wouldn't have similar running speed to Faora. In fact Zod's Kryptonian powers clearly advanced beyond hers by the end of the movie.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
That's kind of silly logic IMO.There's no reason to think Zod wouldn't have similar running speed to Faora. In fact Zod's Kryptonian powers clearly advanced beyond hers by the end of the movie.
You mean other than the fact that Zod never once was shown to have her level of running speed?
Originally posted by Darth Thor
That's kind of silly logic IMO.There's no reason to think Zod wouldn't have similar running speed to Faora. In fact Zod's Kryptonian powers clearly advanced beyond hers by the end of the movie.
Rules. "Feats" are not interchangeable. Posted a mod ruling by Bada about this before already IIRC.
Originally posted by Utrigita
It's going to be one long ass fight, they both have pretty insane durability. The main issue is that it was never established what it actually toke to damage Kurse to a significant degree, likewise Zod didn't get a single scracth from being beaten around the city by Superman. The main difference to me is that Zod seemed (again to me) stronger then Kurse, so in the end I see Zod outlasting Kurse rather then the other way around. But it's close and could really imo go either way.
Don't know what you're talking about. It took a blackhole grenade to take out Kurse. It took a neck snap to take out Zod.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Don't know what you're talking about. It took a blackhole grenade to take out Kurse. It took a neck snap to take out Zod.
Do you have any idea what the punches from Zod is going to do to Kurse? Because based on the movie and what it toke to damage Kurse I don't. Likewise I have no idea what Kurse punches are going to do to Zod when Supermans punches failed to do any form of damage. Furthermore Kurse didn't at any single point of time grapple with Thor, he pounded him, I have no reason to think based on the way Kurse fight that he is going to go for a RNC.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You mean other than the fact that Zod never once was shown to have her level of running speed?
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Rules. "Feats" are not interchangeable. Posted a mod ruling by Bada about this before already IIRC.
That's a Strange rule IMO. I guess on this board Yoda or Sidious can't sprint as fast as Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon do at the beginning of TPM then.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Usain Bolt and Kevin Nash are both humans, can Usain's running feats be used for Kevin?
thats not even a good analogy, kryptonians all have the same power set, THIS was established rather clearly in the movie, russell crowe had a huge speech about it. Besides that Zod has several moments where he shows off his speed. When he and Superman start their final battle Zod blitzes him three times.
Originally posted by relentless1
thats not even a good analogy, kryptonians all have the same power set, THIS was established rather clearly in the movie, russell crowe had a huge speech about it. Besides that Zod has several moments where he shows off his speed. When he and Superman start their final battle Zod blitzes him three times.
Then by all means post the scenes where Zod shows off his running speed.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah that is a bad analogy. Not saying Faora can't necessarily run faster than Zod, but it's obvious Zod could also run at those kind of super speeds.
Then post the scenes where Zod runs at super speed.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Do you have any idea what the punches from Zod is going to do to Kurse? Because based on the movie and what it toke to damage Kurse I don't. Likewise I have no idea what Kurse punches are going to do to Zod when Supermans punches failed to do any form of damage. Furthermore Kurse didn't at any single point of time grapple with Thor, he pounded him, I have no reason to think based on the way Kurse fight that he is going to go for a RNC.
Kurse going for a RNC is a lot more probable than Zod pulling out an elven sword or blackhole grenade.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Kurse going for a RNC is a lot more probable than Zod pulling out an elven sword or blackhole grenade.
Not based on how Kurse chose to engage Thor. Kurse used his fists to pummel Thor, the only time I recall them being just semi close to a grappling scenario was when Kurse picked up Thor only for Thor to engaged Kurse in a glanching blow match with Kurse completely thrashing Thor as a result. For Kurse to suddenly try and grap his opponent to try and snap his neck with a RNC, will, imo be Kurse fighting out of character. I personally see this, based on the way they fought on screen, being a blunt force match where both combatents will try and beat the other into submission and that can take quite a while, based on the damage they can tank. But to each his own.
Well, to be honest, the fight between the two was poorly done and Chris Yost was there. I mean, Thor didnt try lightning or anything. But as soon as malefic comes around next fight theyre doing MOS like things. Destroying massive steel and concrete pillars.
Anyway, my point is, we did not get an extensive look into how Kurse fights except that one scene really. Its not like a rear naked choke is some ancient lost kung fu move or something. Im sure after awhile they would give up punching each other if it wasnt working.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Not based on how Kurse chose to engage Thor. Kurse used his fists to pummel Thor, the only time I recall them being just semi close to a grappling scenario was when Kurse picked up Thor only for Thor to engaged Kurse in a glanching blow match with Kurse completely thrashing Thor as a result. For Kurse to suddenly try and grap his opponent to try and snap his neck with a RNC, will, imo be Kurse fighting out of character. I personally see this, based on the way they fought on screen, being a blunt force match where both combatents will try and beat the other into submission and that can take quite a while, based on the damage they can tank. But to each his own.
Dude, seriously, how difficult do you think a rear naked choke or neck snap is? It's not like a super secret move that requires endless years of training. Anyone can do it given the right positioning and strength. Besides, you really think Kurse who is thousands of years old won't know how to do such a simple maneuver?
ANd like I said (which is something you're not addressing), Kurse doing a neck snap is more plausible than Zod bringing out a blackhole grenade.