Who can move Earth?

Started by Astner16 pages

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I reckon it takes way more energy to smash a planet than to move it.

That depends on what you mean with moving and smashing.

If you by moving mean adding enough energy to break the Earth free from the gravitational pull of the Sun at its given distance. Then all you have to do is calculate the escape velocity of the Earth with respect to the Sun.

In which case we need to take a look at the formula for Newton's law of gravity;

and work:

If we combine the formulas we'll get;

or in integral form;

which we easily solve to be:

Now let's look at the relation between energy and (Newtonian) speed—which won't be a problem unless we're dealing with relativistic speeds, which we won't;

and we put it together with the previous formula:

The actually needs some explanation. m₁ and m₂ are the masses of the bodies that attract each other—in this case the Sun and the Earth—and we are interested in the movement of the Earth so if Earth is m₂, then m = m₂. We are also not interested in the negative solution of the equation since it's only indicative of direction.

So now we have the formula for escape velocity—and you could probably find this on Wikipedia, but I might as well do it right and deduce it.

So the gravitational constant: G = 6.674ᴇ-11, is the mass of the Sun: m₁ = 1.998ᴇ30 , and Earth's distance to the Sun: r₀ = 1.496ᴇ11.

So assuming we are moving the Earth in the direction of it's velocity—because we're smart—we can subtract the velocity the Earth already has from the desired velocity.

And we use the same equation for energy.

And because I'm too lazy to spit out any more equations I'm just going to let Wolfram do the rest of my work for me. Crunch, crunch, crunch...

The energy required would be around 4.56ᴇ32 Joules which is in the same neighborhood as the gravitational binding energy of the Earth which is 2.49ᴇ32.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet

Poor Abby, reacting poorly to how things aren't going over at Damn Clone Comics. I think you need a Rebirth. bye How about a new crossover to fix things: Deadpoole kills the D.C. Universe 😛

How are you even capable of using the Internet? Do you have someone else post your rants for you?

Originally posted by Galan007
The rogue planet was traveling ~500,000mph:

Hyperion stopped it. This means he exerted a force roughly equal to that of a planet traveling at half-a-million mph from a standstill(ie. he didn't gain any forward velocity beforehand.) So yeah, there is no reason at all to assume he couldn't move a planet. That feat alone indicates he can do so rather easily, imo.

NIIIIIIIICE.

Originally posted by Delta1938
NIIIIIIIICE.

If the mass for the "rouge planet" is given as well as its proximity to the Earth you can make an energy estimate for that as well.

Originally posted by Badabing
Don't think I can't read through your posts and see your specism! sneer

How do you successfully post by bashing your face into the keyboard? I mean your arms are too short to type.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer's own word.

He had to push harder than ever before to just move a moon.

He rode on the moon. Rode it like a Surfer board, not push it with physical might. Two different things.

Move a planet vs smash a planet
Who need more energy?

Depends if the planet is in free motion or orbiting round a sun,and ofcourse the planet size

Originally posted by a88378438
Move a planet vs smash a planet
Who need more energy?

You have been reading the thread, right?

Oh,iirc thor and herc generated enough energy to move the earth when armwrstling right?

Originally posted by abhilegend
It's not just that. Unless you think this is canon as well where Wade enters a group therapy of former heralds.

Easy. Both Green Lanterns and Silver Surfer have destroyed planets casually. Heck, Binary, Drax and freaking Psimon have destroyed planets.


You don't think Galactus using Twitter is just as outlandish as group therapy for former heralds?

While Surfer has to use his whole power to move a moon, Lanterns have trouble moving planets and so on.

Hmmm you do have a point there.

I remember on one occasion Superman, WW, and GL struggled to pull a moon:
http://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/whitemartiansmm30.jpg

On another occassion the JLA struggled to push the moon together:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/105634/3668906-celestial+bodies+requires+strength+3.jpg

Which makes Surfer solo surfing a moon into Galactus more impressive.

Originally posted by Genii96
Didn't surfer use his gravity powers to make 2 planets orbit around each other? And didn't he and 2 other annihilators fuse 2 suns and rearrange the planets of a solar system?

Hyperion obviously can,thor,hulk,blue marvel,sentry and kallark should be able to as well,as they r in hype's class,or at most 3 of them working together


True, the Annihilators pushed planets around and re-arranged Galador's solar system:
http://postimg.org/image/fwalukwqz/

Originally posted by One-Punch
You don't think Galactus using Twitter is just as outlandish as group therapy for former heralds?

Several of which are dead? No.

Hmmm you do have a point there.

I remember on one occasion Superman, WW, and GL struggled to pull a moon:
http://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/whitemartiansmm30.jpg

They had to pull the moon so fast towards the earth that white Martian couldn't notice it and fifty of Earth's strongest magicians like Zatanna and Dr Fate had to struggle and failed to compensate against its momentum.

That's a monstrous feat in of itself.

There is no way to know of the size of the moon Surfer moved.

BTW even Byrne Superman moved Earth+Moon together.

On another occassion the JLA struggled to push the moon together:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/105634/3668906-celestial+bodies+requires+strength+3.jpg

Which makes Surfer solo surfing a moon into Galactus more impressive.

Moon's mass had increased exponentially there. Superman even refers him moving the moon before there.

Originally posted by One-Punch
True, the Annihilators pushed planets around and re-arranged Galador's solar system:
http://postimg.org/image/fwalukwqz/

Totally off panel. Way to go there.

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Originally posted by Delta1938
How are you even capable of using the Internet? Do you have someone else post your rants for you?

Yeah, you're mom types with her toes for me while I beat her with a wooden spoon. She loves it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Totally off panel. Way to go there.

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Who the **** cares? Was that stated in the stips, YOUR stips? This is you with your hands affixed over your eyes saying "Nah Nah Nah....."

I like how this thread is essentially people posting scans of Marvel characters almost moving planets, and Abhi (together with a crew of superman-avatared minions) doing his best to deny these scans.

In a thread where he requested just that.

Was that the purpose of this thread? To showcase how unreasonable you are?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Yeah, you're mom types with her toes for me while I beat her with a wooden spoon. She loves it.

😆 You are such a pathetic little *****.

Originally posted by Delta1938
😆 You are such a pathetic little *****.

Watch yo mouth boy, I might be your Daddy.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Watch yo mouth boy, I might be your Daddy.

Keep dreaming little girl. My mom has standards. You're just 😆