Ozymandias vs. Winter Soldier (h2h)

Started by Silent Master150 pages
Originally posted by FrothByte
Correct. WS kills Ozy.

True.

Ozy is faster. He's able to catch a bullet, parry multiple lightning fast snap punches with casual ease, snap out punches and kicks with lightning quickness. If you look at the fight scene again you will see Rorshach and Nite Owl throw some attacks that were faster than any attack shown by WS in all movies.

Ozy has better perception speed. He can see bullets, casually parry multiple lightning snap punches, etc.

Ozy is more skilled in h2h (WS is overall more skilled in weapons, knives, etc). He easily beat two guys simultaneously who can each beat a bunch of thugs. He did so with casual ease and amazing improvisation.

Ozy is superhumanly strong. He leaped 30ft through the air, casually leaped about 6 feet vertically, kicked a human lying completely on the ground and sent them flying through the air, casually lifted a 200+ lbs. human and threw him 20 feet through skyscraper glass (which is hella durable), casually caught punches capable of shattering solid marble, etc.

So Ozy is strong enough to damage WS
He's fast enough to hit WS
His perception is fast enough to easily parry WS attacks.

For these reasons, Ozy wins.

Per the clips, WS is the faster and more skilled fighter.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Per the clips, WS is the faster and more skilled fighter.

How can he be faster when

1.Ozy threw a punch faster than any attack WS ever made
2. Ozy was able to catch a bullet
3. Ozy EASILY AND CASUALLY parried multiple attacks that were each faster than any attack made by WS.

The bullet catch scene alone proves that Ozy is far faster.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ozy is faster. He's able to catch a bullet, parry multiple lightning fast snap punches with casual ease, snap out punches and kicks with lightning quickness. If you look at the fight scene again you will see Rorshach and Nite Owl throw some attacks that were faster than any attack shown by WS in all movies.

Ozy has better perception speed. He can see bullets, casually parry multiple lightning snap punches, etc.

Ozy is more skilled in h2h (WS is overall more skilled in weapons, knives, etc). He easily beat two guys simultaneously who can each beat a bunch of thugs. He did so with casual ease and amazing improvisation.

Ozy is superhumanly strong. He leaped 30ft through the air, casually leaped about 6 feet vertically, kicked a human lying completely on the ground and sent them flying through the air, casually lifted a 200+ lbs. human and threw him 20 feet through skyscraper glass (which is hella durable), casually caught punches capable of shattering solid marble, etc.

So Ozy is strong enough to damage WS
He's fast enough to hit WS
His perception is fast enough to easily parry WS attacks.

For these reasons, Ozy wins.

This exactly. It blows my mind that people dont see this. I cant tell if they actually believe it or if it's just them in full fanboy mode.

Originally posted by h1a8
How can he be faster when

1.Ozy threw a punch faster than any attack WS ever made
2. Ozy was able to catch a bullet
3. Ozy EASILY AND CASUALLY parried multiple attacks that were each faster than any attack made by WS.

The bullet catch scene alone proves that Ozy is far faster.

Point 1 is a lie
Point 2 never happened in a fight
Point 3 is a lie.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
This exactly. It blows my mind that people dont see this. I cant tell if they actually believe it or if it's just them in full fanboy mode.
Ewwww.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Point 1 is a lie
Point 2 never happened in a fight
Point 3 is a lie.

I watched all the scenes again. I couldn't find a single scene where WS punched faster than Ozy, Rorshach, and Nite Owl's fastest punches on screen. Since you say it is a lie then post or refer to a clip that shows WS delivering a single strike that was faster than any of those punches.

Point 2 proves speed and reflexes.

Originally posted by h1a8
I watched all the scenes again. I couldn't find a single scene where WS punched faster than Ozy, Rorshach, and Nite Owl's fastest punches on screen. Since you say it is a lie then post or refer to a clip that shows WS delivering a single strike that was faster than any of those punches.

Point 2 proves speed and reflexes.

Moving fast once outside of combat when you had several seconds of warning isn't proof of combat speed. and Ozy being faster is only your opinion. multiple people have disagreed with you.

Why don't you actually provide proof for your claims?

The reality of this fight is this:

Ozy is vastly more skilled than WS
Ozy is vastly faster than WS in movement
Ozy has vastly faster reflexes and perception
Ozy is vastly smarter than WS

All these mean Ozy wins, and convincingly

Yep, WS wins.

T.I. even agrees Ozy wins cause speed wins.

Why would anyone agree that the slower fighter wins?

Go ahead and quote that KT. Caught lying again. He's in his childish outburst stage cause he's losing all his arguments.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Go ahead and quote that KT. Caught lying again. He's in his childish outburst stage cause he's losing all his arguments.

You lost the first argument of the day. You said nobody agreed with me. This was blatantly proven false. So who's losing arguments today?

Quote it, Rob and I have proved you wrong on every account. Go ahead and quote me saying Ozzy wins.

Wait are you claiming you didn't say nobody agreed with me... and then turn around and prove yourself wrong by citing somebody who did. Are you claiming it didn't happen?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Wait are you claiming you didn't say nobody agreed with me... and then turn around and prove yourself wrong by citing somebody who did. Are you claiming it didn't happen?

Where did TI say that Ozy would win because of his speed?

I didn't, he's lying like he does everything else

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Wait are you claiming you didn't say nobody agreed with me... and then turn around and prove yourself wrong by citing somebody who did. Are you claiming it didn't happen?

Again, did you lose this argument first today?