Ozymandias vs. Winter Soldier (h2h)

Started by Inhuman150 pages
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
If said middleweight could catch bullets he have a clear speed advantage wouldn't you think 😐

The heavyweight is fast enough to block faster flying bullets with his arm.
The speed difference isn't that far off between both these guys.

Originally posted by Mindset
You about to catch these hands

You just used mu gif on me? Bruh you just violated

Originally posted by Inhuman
The heavyweight is fast enough to block faster flying bullets with his arm.
The speed difference isn't that far off between both these guys.

You know the difference between a block and a punch?

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
You know the difference between a block and a punch?

Do you know the difference between slower vs. faster flying bullets?
Do you know the difference between having time anticipating being shot at and calculating the bullet trajectory vs. Reacting instantly to being shot and blocking faster flying bullets than the hand gun that shot Ozy?

Originally posted by Inhuman
Do you know the difference between slower vs. faster flying bullets?
Do you know the difference between having time anticipating being shot at and calculating the bullet trajectory vs. Reacting instantly to being shot and blocking faster flying bullets than the hand gun that shot Ozy?

That's a no then...

He blocks BEFORE the gun is fired... ant joe schmoe can do that.

Now catching a bullet from 6 foot away AFTER it's been fired is impossible... unless you're Ozymandias

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn

Now catching a bullet from 6 foot away AFTER it's been fired is impossible... unless you're Ozymandias

Then he was helpless on the floor. It is never established Ozy could react in that way continuously. Especially in a fight , where Ozy never showed those speeds. In fact he looked slow and methodical.

Exactly, per feats in order for Ozy to catch a relatively slow bullet he needs to know it's coming and have several seconds to prepare and is so drained afterwards that he needs time to recuperate.

Not a series of events likely to occur during a hth fight.

WS wins, wtf is the matter with people

Originally posted by Inhuman
Do you know the difference between slower vs. faster flying bullets?
Do you know the difference between having time anticipating being shot at and calculating the bullet trajectory vs. Reacting instantly to being shot and blocking faster flying bullets than the hand gun that shot Ozy?

Stop being Disingenuous inhuman, and that is blatantly what you are doing here.

First off, you "giving" Ozy some slight speed advantage isn't true to the scenes in question. If we take the scene at face value, it absolutely and without questions, poops on anything Bucky has done speed wise.

You keep referencing fast bullet and guns. The didn't matter one iota since Bucky AIM blocked (raised his arm prior to the shots being fired)... in STARK and EXPONENTIALLY FASTER fashion... Ozy has his arm at his side AFTER a bullet is fired from 5 feet away. He's still fast enough to raise his arm and catch the bullet. To even try and compare the speed there, with what Bucky showed in being disingenuous and you know it, and you're also better than that.

Make no mistake, you aren't "giving" us anything, feats have given us everything we need, not you. If we scale that scene up in its totality, the MW would never even get a punch landed on him by the HW. That would be scaling the fight up proportionally. Not what you were trying to peddle.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Then he was helpless on the floor. It is never established Ozy could react in that way continuously. Especially in a fight , where Ozy never showed those speeds. In fact he looked slow and methodical.

You keep trying to peddle this theory and I've destroyed it every time. The prison scene with Nite-Owl is a perfect example. It was clearly and without question suppose to show that these guys have peak human skills level. You never see anyone in real life walking through a bunch of huge strong tough guys like that with utter ease. Not a blow landed on him, and he was sending people flying into jail bars and to the floor. Clearly demonstrating he was not only faster than these guys but also more skilled. These scenes are suppose to make it clear how badass they are. Just like R.O. breaking people jaws with a punch or Comedian punching a hole in the wall. A 5 year old can watch that scene and see it. Then we see Ozy casually and with the utmost ease blocking every single punch from that same person, only he also has help. Not a single blow landed.

So if Nite-Owl is clearly faster than normal humans, and yet he can't even land a blow on Ozy, even while he's laughing, talking and joking with his back turned... how fast must Ozy be? To say nothing of the fact that absence of proof is not proof. In no way shape or form did Ozy need to show more speed. They didn't even land a single blow on him. Not one. What you wanted him to move even faster? Why? He was casually doing what he did and laughing while doing so. You thinking he should've moved faster is simply laughable. He did all that was needed.

The last problem is, which you have no answer for, is the director clearly wasn't trying to be realistic with his fight scenes. If so, we'd never see Ozy catch the bullet. It would happen to fast. Yet we do. We even see his arm move. Yet you go, wow that was so much faster than his punches.... WTF... WE SEE BOTH OF THEM. You can't even tell which is faster than the other... that is how silly this argument is. The director clearly wasn't trying to be realistic there, he wanted the audience to view the scene. Yet somehow, it appears faster than his blocks and punches lol. It's truly laughable

Actually, the problem is that you have yet to post a clip of Ozy fighting at bullet-time speed.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I watched CA: TWS last night, Ozy probably won't even be able to hurt Bucky.

It looked like Falcon was hurting him. Actually seemed to have a clear upper hand in their third and last match.

Originally posted by cdtm
It looked like Falcon was hurting him. Actually seemed to have a clear upper hand in their third and last match.

When was that? I only remember Bucky tearing off one of Falcon's wings.

I don't seem to remember a lot of things TBH, mainly the feats in question and how to comprehend them.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I don't seem to remember a lot of things TBH, mainly the feats in question and how to comprehend them.

Ok, that's cool. I don't think your memory issues have any bearing on this thread though.

I was speaking for you. That should've been your response.

Well, I'm not a mind reader son. When you say "I" I'm assuming you are referring to yourself. The rest of us here on planet Earth, say "you" or a similar pronoun when we're addressing other people.

lmao 58 pages SMDH

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I don't seem to remember a lot of things TBH, mainly the feats in question and how to comprehend them.

We know.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Well, I'm not a mind reader son. When you say "I" I'm assuming you are referring to yourself. The rest of us here on planet Earth, say "you" or a similar pronoun when we're addressing other people.

Well, when you thumbs up horrible lines of logic, I figure you need a little something outside the box. I figured a little sarcasm and 3rd person talking might be just up your alley, since you know, you have a hard time with easy basic concepts a 5 year old could discern. I digress though, it was silly of me to think you'd get it.