Because Bane has never been to Malachor?
Regardless, wounds in the Force passively drain the Force power from around them. Simply being in Nihilus presence was enough to have your powers sapped and his entire ship was a practical death field.
Its both logical and evident that is significantly amplified his ability to drain the Force from others, in comparison to someone not of that nature.
Wut. All Traya says you need to learn it is to be drained, and considering that's how Sith think you learn everything, I'm not sure why Bane wouldn't have been drained at some point in his training. I mean I don't think it's the same thing, but honestly the reasoning you're using is kind of off.
As to the rest, that really doesn't matter. That would just explain how he's able to drain others well, it's not a measure of how well within itself.
No, that's stupid. Firstly, you don't need to be drained. The Exile and Nihilus weren't. You just can't be taught it, which regular drain obviously can be. Secondly, when would Bane have been drained? The most advanced thing he was taught on Korriban was Lightning. He definitely wasn't taught so advanced and dangerous a technique like Nihilus', which btw Traya and the Exile went to great lengths to extinguish all knowledge of.
Originally posted by Nephthys
No, that's stupid. Firstly, you don't need to be drained. The Exile and Nihilus weren't.
You just can't be taught it, which regular drain obviously can be. Secondly, when would Bane have been drained? The most advanced thing he was taught on Korriban was Lightning. He definitely wasn't taught so advanced and dangerous a technique like Nihilus', which btw Traya and the Exile went to great lengths to extinguish all knowledge of.
Nihilus' nature matters because it gives him an intrinsic advantage that Bane doesn't have. Which makes his experience circumstantial and non-applicable.
On the other hand never has Nihilus has used Force drain on individuals and even on a planet seemingly instantaneously, so why is its combat effectiveness even a question?
Its entirely baseless to assume Nihilus will have difficulty here, and Bane's experiences proving nothing.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
They constantly drain everything around them by being wounds, including themselves. Also, everyone else isn't a wound, so that really doesn't matter. Nice splitting hair though.
The Exile first used the technique on herself, genius. That's how she became a wound in the first place. She didn't learn it from a holocron, she did it by instinct. Pretty sure Nihilus is the same.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Okay, it can't be taught, but half the Sith in galaxy currently know it? They were being shipped to Malachor specifically to be taught it by feeling it first hand. And Kreia went to great lengths to extinguish something her assassins are still using? M'kay. I mean, "You can't use ___ without experiencing ___," is Sith 101, Plagues says the same thing about Lightning in the novel. There's also the fact Bane found Revan's holocron, and I somehow doubt Revan wouldn't know about the Drain he was training assassins to use. That would be dumb. Exceedingly.
Right, they weren't taught it from a teacher or anything, they learned it from Malachor. It's not a standard technique. Malachor was made into a crucible to create beings like the Exile. And Kreia engineered the situation where the Exile would wipe out all practitioners of the technique. She wasn't even in charge of the assassins until the end of the game, at which point she'd already put their destruction into motion.
Plagueis is full of shit, Bane didn't need Githany to zap him to eclipse her in it's use nigh-instantly. We know Kreia is telling the truth because otherwise there'd be no need for Malachor.
It doesn't matter if the technique was in Revan's holocron. It can't be taught. Revan could describe the technique all he wants but Bane still wouldn't be capable of learning it.
Also it goes without saying that no-one else has ever shown the effects that Nihilus' drain causes, like dramatic increases in power, mental dominance hunger, addiction etc etc as a result of standard force drain. Cuz no-one else outside of Kotor II uses that technique.
It depends really on to what extent does Anakin's knowledge on the Dark Reaper could be applied to stop Nihilus's drain. If it's comparable, then Team 2 wins sabers and all-out.
However, if Anakin's knowledge cannot be applied against Nihilus and Traya, Team 1 wins all-out.
What's for sure is that Team 1 takes the Force battle and Team 2 takes the sabers duel. The combined power of Traya and Nihilus is too much for Dooku and Vader and there's no way in hell Team 2 would lose sabers against the Triumvirate.
Originally posted by carthage
Prove that Traya can oneshot them?Talzin is far more powerful than Traya, i,e powerful enough to go head to head with Sidious while weakened. Talzin draining Dooku isn't proof Traya can