Darth Malgus vs. Savage Opress

Originally posted by Nephthys
*****, I've been playing Fallout all day, don't step to me on the subject of burnt buildings. It can also just mean spoiled, damaged or, yknow, burned. Looking at the context of the quote, its obvious it was just describing that it had been damaged by fire.

The Jedi specifically makes the motion of pushing them down, he didn't just take out some supports.

And putting a bit downward pressure on melted, crumbling supports would sure be enough to collapse a building, face it, he's weak fodder.

Because theres only one definition of anything, gotcha.

There's no indication that anything was melted. The bombardment happened well before this took place and it was obviously intact enough to support it's own substantial weight. You're getting silly now and twisting this to ridiculous extremes beyond anything suggested in the text which you've obviously not even seen.

Freshest was attempting to do the same with the Bane feat.

Uh, no, I wasn't.

Uh, yes you were.

No, no, I was not. I brought up the fact it was bombarded once. And it wasn't even a focus of the argument.

You said that a weakened structure would collapse more easily with its supporting structures removed yet we didn't know to what degree the temple was damaged from said bombardments if at all.

The supporting structure was the arch, which Bane removed. Thank you for confirming you didn't actually read.

Yes but I'm saying we don't know if the temple was even weakened in the first place.

Isn't there a quote in PoD saying the Temple was in fine condition?

Yes.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The supporting structure was the arch, which Bane removed. Thank you for confirming you didn't actually read.

This is utter fanon.

Neph, there's several pictures of the Temple in that thread alone. If you can't use common sense, which I don't doubt, there's no point in discussing it.

And in turn, you can't argue that the temple Bane collapsed was structurally compromised. 🙂

So you say the temple was much smaller than it was shown as in the video games by saying book description trumps game portrayal.

Then you support an archway completely supporting the temple's structural integrity despite it not making any sense with the description of the temple in the book (ie. the archway is 20 meters high up on the exterior of the temple, thus it couldn't be supporting its entire structure), by saying game portrayal trumps book description.

Pick one and use that rather than cherrypicking between the two based on whatever you think would allow you to lowball Bane's feat the most.

Which is exactly what I said/was thinking. 🙂

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Which is exactly what I said/was thinking. 🙂

But I'm happy somebody else recognizes this obvious truth

yeah I'm not exactly sure how that double standard so easily escaped scrutiny

Originally posted by Emperordmb
So you say the temple was much smaller than it was shown as in the video games by saying book description trumps game portrayal.

Then you support an archway completely supporting the temple's structural integrity despite it not making any sense with the description of the temple in the book (ie. the archway is 20 meters high up on the exterior of the temple, thus it couldn't be supporting its entire structure), by saying game portrayal trumps book description.

Pick one and use that rather than cherrypicking between the two based on whatever you think would allow you to lowball Bane's feat the most.

It's not just you though it's a general notion that Bane simply blew apart rubble

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
It's about twenty meters in KotOR, which is obviously what Drew was thinking of when he wrote the book. I also never argued Revan bombarding it made the walls weaker. Nice try though. I actually said TOR didn't even take the book into consideration.

But the idea that the arch is a supporting structure for the entire temple's integrity makes no sense given the temple's in book description, and the only counter to that, which wasn't made by you, was pictures of the temple from the games.

If we're judging based on book description it is not a supporting structure for the entire temple.