Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
The point is that the characters are not engaging to make you care about what's going on and what may happen to them. They're not complaining about "talking during fight scenes." They're complaining about bland characters.

Which isn't the case at all.

Some people think characters have to be "fun" and cracking out jokes all the time, or be eccentric to be attached to them. But that's not true. This was a war story, and the characters were great for the tone of the movie IMO.

Also you should make your own opinion instead of just repeating what red letter media says, as if their's is the "right" opinion to have or something.

That was the example that they gave, thus it is perfectly valid for me to criticize them for it. Since it is very stupid.

I trust you can figure out why "not talking during action scenes" isn't a compelling argument on your own and I don't need to elaborate.

It's not even accurate. There are times when they talk and times they don't. And there are plenty of action scenes in the OT where there's no talking or quips as well. They just handpicked the scenes they wanted to create a false premise. Disgusting.

RLM's "review" of TFA may be the worst and most pointless waste of time I've experienced in years. They only spend a quarter of it actually talking about the movie and all their points were shite. They're trash now.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Also you should make your own opinion instead of just repeating what red letter media says, as if their's is the "right" opinion to have or something.

I will once I see the movie, but I often agree with them on many other movies.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The Twilight films grossed $3.3 billion. They must truly be great, cinematic masterpieces. Money and success is literally the exact same thing as quality.

I enjoyed the Twilight movies and books. And they are definitely not masterpieces. Some things can be trash and still be enjoyable. For instance, the 70s and 80s Tromo films. Absolute horrible shitty trash. But some horror fans absolutely love the films and enjoy them. To make it more clear, Tromo films are far and away worse than the Twilight movies. But I don't see people complaining about how shitty the Tromo films are...where are those people? Is it because everyone knows how shitty they are and no one, including the cultist fans, will deny that?

The key, here, is "enjoyment." This is why movies which people b*tch about still make lots of money: if it entertained, then it is successful and people will buy tickets (assuming marketing is on point).

Twilight entertained. It sold tickets. It sold books. A masterpiece it is not.

For me, Rogue One is the starwarsiest SW movie since Jedi. Loved it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I enjoyed the Twilight movies and books. And they are definitely not masterpieces. Some things can be trash and still be enjoyable. For instance, the 70s and 80s Tromo films. Absolute horrible shitty trash. But some horror fans absolutely love the films and enjoy them. To make it more clear, Tromo films are far and away worse than the Twilight movies. But I don't see people complaining about how shitty the Tromo films are...where are those people? Is it because everyone knows how shitty they are and no one, including the cultist fans, will deny that?

The key, here, is "enjoyment." This is why movies which people b*tch about still make lots of money: if it entertained, then it is successful and people will buy tickets (assuming marketing is on point).

Twilight entertained. It sold tickets. It sold books. A masterpiece it is not.

I didn't "enjoy" Rogue One or fine it to be very "Fun" and thats why I don't like it.

Differing opinions and all that.

Ben Mendelsohn talks about "enormously different" scenes shot in Rogue One

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/ben-mendelsohn-talks-about-enourmously-different-scenes-shot-in-rogue-one-259

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]I didn't "enjoy" Rogue One or fine it to be very "Fun" and thats why I don't like it.

Differing opinions and all that. [/B]

Poorly said. But you're a cock sucker anyway and no one values your opinion

Originally posted by Stringer
Poorly said. But you're a cock sucker anyway and no one values your opinion

And yet you took the time to respond....Be sure to wipe your mouth when you get done down there. It makes your beard smell all funky.

And not in a good way.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I enjoyed the Twilight movies and books. And they are definitely not masterpieces. Some things can be trash and still be enjoyable. For instance, the 70s and 80s Tromo films. Absolute horrible shitty trash. But some horror fans absolutely love the films and enjoy them. To make it more clear, Tromo films are far and away worse than the Twilight movies. But I don't see people complaining about how shitty the Tromo films are...where are those people? Is it because everyone knows how shitty they are and no one, including the cultist fans, will deny that?

The key, here, is "enjoyment." This is why movies which people b*tch about still make lots of money: if it entertained, then it is successful and people will buy tickets (assuming marketing is on point).

Twilight entertained. It sold tickets. It sold books. A masterpiece it is not.

Maybe no one remembers or watched these tromo movies?

Twilight came out with the internet and social media as it is lol.

The Troma are shit movies in a good way.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Its more that without the SW IP a few things wouldn't be explained very well. Which is a ****ing stupid criticism because, y'know, the SW IP does exist? And everyone actually does know all of these things? And without the IP they probably would have written the movie differently? Its a nonsense nitpick they made up because all their other criticisms were terrible and debunked (gosh, things from ANH appear in a movie set 1 day before ANH? No waaaaay!).

Originally posted by Kazenji
The Troma are shit movies in a good way.

Too bad Rogue 1 was no where near as fun as an of the Troma Films.

Each to their own

i personally didn't feel Rogue One wasn't shit.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Each to their own

i personally didn't feel Rogue One wasn't shit.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
So, you didn't, wait... so-- you, carry the 2, account for X...

R1 didn't quite do it for me (final act aside) like other SW films, but I'd never go as far as to call it shit. You're never going to enjoy many things with the "if it's not great, it's shit" line of thought.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
You're never going to enjoy many things with the "if it's not great, it's shit" line of thought.

I didn't like it, therefore it's "shit" or it's "disgusting" or "shameful". Those are words that should be carefully chosen for things that truly earn them. A film you don't like should never evoke that kind of emotion in a mentally healthy adult.

My main gripes with the film were mainly from the jumbled first act. They unnecessarily show Jayn in the prison camp before the scene where they actually establish that she's in a prison camp.

The film starts to come together on Jeddah. All of the characters were memorable. Yen's character added a sense of spirituality that didn't feel too blatant. The robot was more enjoyable (and more badass) than C-3PO and R2 IMO. Krennic was an excellent villain, and CGI Tarkin was just as intimidating as it would be if he were live action. The effects for Leia were absolutely amazing.

And Vader.....he was who I was most anticipating to see in this and he delivered. I was so happy when I found out that JEJ would reprise the role, and even based on his small screen time here, Vader is still the ultimate badass villain we know and love. From his force-choking of Krennic to his brutal slaughter of the rebels at the end of the film, it's clear that Vader is a terrifying presence. Also, it was great seeing Jimmy Smits, as well as hearing his reference to Obi Wan.

The battle on Scariff was amazing. I definitely felt WWII vibes comparable to the Normandy invasion and Hiroshima. I think the fact that everyone sacrificed their lives at the end is what gave this film the emotional edge it needed. I did find it quite funny that EVERY CHARACTER died in an explosion (besides the robot).

And yea, the 3d didn't really do anything, although that doesn't mean the effects were bad. Watching the Death Star deal out damage with 21st century CGI was amazing, considering that in the 80's the best we see is an exploding planet, whereas in this, it truly feels like an advanced nuclear bombing.

All in all, I would definitely recommend it, although unlike Dr. Strange, seeing it on the hugest screen possible isn't exactly a necessity.

Final verdict: 7.8/10