Unorthodox Opinions

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*cough*Mortis*cough*

Well, *after* Mortis she's too pure to be corrupted. 🙂

>implying this face could be anything but pure 🙂

Unorthodox opinion. That pic's scary.

Unorthodox opinion. Joker and Aurbere should be shot. We cannot allow gayism to break down the wall that have been built to separate man from beast.

Only if I can shove my cock up LeGenD's ass first

i don't know about everyone else, but im not big on shooting animals either

#****thatkidsavetheape

I'm telling you, Dooku + Ahsoka would make such a badass team. Dress Ahsoka up in a some fancy louis vuitton apparel to match Dooku and dayumn. I'd tap that any day.

Seriously, She'd be his most powerful apprentice. With Dooku's Sith/Jedi knowledge + Former training from Anakin, Ahsoka would be unstoppable!

I'm going to fantasize about this now

We know what that fantasizing involves, and it's gross.

Originally posted by Selenial
Ahsoka should have died in the Clone Wars, executed and proven innocent after, but Filoni's hard-on for her and the attempt to drag her into rebels got in the way of emotive and good storytelling...
How would that good storytelling 😬
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
You know what I really like about Ahsoka? That she is really, really close to Anakin, yet she had nothing to do with his fall, nor his redemption.

10/10 useless character.

Lol, people really don't understand this character.

It would be good story telling because it shows the faults of the Jedi and makes Anakin's obsession make more sense.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
It would be good story telling because it shows the faults of the Jedi and makes Anakin's obsession make more sense.

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The whole arc was about the Jedi falling from grace. Good storytelling would be actually showing flaws in your protagonists instead of making their imperfections have no consequences. If the Jedi had been so insistent on pleasing the Senate that they got Ahsoka killed, Anakin's fall and lack of trust in the Jedi would make a lot more sense.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
It would be good story telling because it shows the faults of the Jedi and makes Anakin's obsession make more sense ahsoka dies.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Yeah...

Can't tell if agreeing or nah.

Pretty much. Meetra sucks too, though.

Agreed, tbh, but also not mmm

Traya made her character interesting, even if she herself really wasn't.

I think everyone is agreed here.

You'd be surprised.

This is definitely unorthodox. Most people think it's been long dead.

Nah, there was definitely some decent stuff coming out before the Disney takeover.

Originally posted by Selenial
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The whole arc was about the Jedi falling from grace. Good storytelling would be actually showing flaws in your protagonists instead of making their imperfections have no consequences. If the Jedi had been so insistent on pleasing the Senate that they got Ahsoka killed, Anakin's fall and lack of trust in the Jedi would make a lot more sense.

That not what the arc is about, that's the backdrop; rather it's the culmination of Ahsoka's hero's journey, of her story arc, where she realises the Jedi are shite and makes the decision to leave them. Having Ahsoka die before that revelation and resolution therefore would be to spoil her personal narrative quite completely.

This is what I mean when I say people don't get Ahsoka, and TCW itself for that matter. What people don't understand is that TCW is her story, she is the primary protagonist, not Anakin, not Kenobi, Ahsoka, their fates are sealed, their stories have already been told; this about what happens to a budding Jedi against the backdrop of a false war, a failing Jedi, a corrupt Senate and a cast of characters doomed to various extremities. So to kill her off in this manner would essentially be akin to having Luke die at Palpatine's hands to make Vader realise what a terrible person he'd become i.e. stupid (because first and foremost it isn't Vader's story, it's Luke's).

And for what? To "show the faults of the Jedi"? As if we haven't already seen them, and as if kicking Ahsoka out of the Order then having the hubris to invite her back in like it was all just a big trial didn't demonstrate that quite plainly.

And as for giving weight to Anakin's issues with the Jedi, lawls, as if the Council again kicking Ahsoka out of the Order was not sufficient. Indeed if Ahsoka had died as if he wouldn't have pissed off immediately, and/or gone dark side. That would have been too much, and would have made Anakin's growing anger and mistrust towards the Jedi rather bizarre and redundant.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
This is what I mean when I say people don't get Ahsoka, and TCW itself for that matter. What people don't understand is that TCW is her story, she is the primary protagonist.

Originally posted by Beniboybling

That not what the arc is about, that's the backdrop; rather it's the culmination of Ahsoka's hero's journey, of her story arc, where she realises the Jedi are shite and makes the decision to leave them. Having Ahsoka die before that revelation therefore would be to spoil her personal narrative quite completely.


👆 Yeah, as emotionally powerful a moment as Ahsoka's death and Anakin flipping out would be, I feel like that would be a bit too heavy. Like if Ahsoka was legit killed, I almost feel like Anakin's reaction to that would disrupt his relationship with the order a little too much for the rest of the story to make sense. As less spectacular as it is for Anakin, I feel like the more subtle nature of him feeling completely helpless, not to the point of rage but by the fact that he's constrained by somebody else's completely justified rage, and is losing someone even though he managed to save them.

Aside from Anakin though, yeah, you are completely right about how it wouldn't do Ahsoka's character justice, with the emotionally powerful moment of her leaving the Jedi Order, and for both Ahsoka and Anakin, it allows for their reunion and another emotionally powerful scene, as well as for the best episode in Rebels and the best fight scene in Rebels.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
And this is what I mean when I say people don't get Ahsoka, and TCW itself for that matter. What people don't understand is that TCW is her story, she is the primary protagonist, not Anakin, not Kenobi, Ahsoka, their fates are sealed, their stories have already been told; this about what happens to a budding Jedi against the backdrop of a false war, a failing Jedi, a corrupt Senate and a cast of characters doomed to various extremities. So to kill her off in this manner would essentially be akin to having Luke die at the end of the RotJ for the sake of foil characters i.e. stupid.

I wouldn't agree with you about Ahsoka being the primary protagonist, or even there being a single primary protagonist in general, I feel like TCW revolved around a few main characters, of which Ahsoka and Anakin happen to be two. I do agree with the point you're making about Ahsoka having her own story, and being developed as more than a mere foil to Anakin however. I would think the several episodes where she appears with minimal involvement from Anakin should be proof enough of this, yet people seem to think she's only a foil for Anakin for some reason.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
And for what? To "show the faults of the Jedi"? As if we haven't already seen them, and as if kicking Ahsoka out of the Order then having the hubris to invite her back in like it was all just a big trial didn't demonstrate that quite plainly.

Yeah Ahsoka, a teenage padawan, calling them on their shit and up and leaving was pretty damn effective.

And as far as the faults of the Jedi go... we kinda see them more and more with all the retarded shit Yoda does in the series, and season six specifically.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
And as for giving weight to Anakin's issues the Jedi, lawls, as if the Council again kicking Ahsoka out of the Order was not sufficient. Indeed if Ahsoka had died as if he wouldn't have pissed off immediately, and/or gone dark side. That would have been too much, and would have made Anakin's growing anger and mistrust towards the Jedi rather bizarre and redundant.

Wow I came to the exact same conclusion in the beginning of my response to your comment despite not having read your whole comment first.

Beni's like the definition of a fanboy. And the fact that you don't like something doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. You don't see me bitching that Vader/Anakin dies at the end of RotJ, and it's not because I had my whole life to come to terms with it. It's because it works well for that scene.

On an unrelated note, I totally called that they weren't going to actually execute Barriss.

It almost feels like some cliche bullshit where when things are uncertain and people think it might be the actually innocent good guy, they are ready to ****in kill, yet when its revealed they were wrong and incontrovertible evidence proves without a shadow of a doubt who actually did it, that's when they suddenly grow a moral backbone and decide that "killing is da wrong thing to do after all"

So when Dark Disciple revealed that the Jedi convinced the senate not to execute a definitively proven terrorist when they were perfectly fine being silent about an ambiguously innocent/guilty padawan, I wasn't surprised in the slightest.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
...the fact that you don't like something doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. You don't see me bitching that Vader/Anakin Ahsoka dies doesn't die at the end of RotJ TCW, and it's not because I had my whole life to come to terms with it. It's because it works well for that scene.
Lmao the sheer irony. 😂