And yet somehow he still strikes you as the second most powerful Sith ever. First, until you had your life and passion tortured out of you at North Korea SWF. Anywho, your obsession with The Ones and OP fanfiction characters are where dots are connected in regards to your power obsession.
And obviously Talon's bod is her #1 personality trait.
Why did I see you looking at this thread and know you were gonna specifically challenge what I said? Oh yeah, because bitching me out is half of your purpose on this forum because you hold me in a peculiar contempt I can't quite place my finger on.
And nah, even excluding the intermediary Banites I have him lowered to five now.
And yeah, I'd say liking a character for how they look is no more deep and profound than liking them for their power, which happens, believe it or not, to not be the only reason I like Bane.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
But Zoltan, since you seem intent on bitching others out for their preference in characters (myself and Beni), why don't you bother defending why you like Shaak Ti, Cade, Talon or any of your other favorite characters, and explain what substantive traits they have in your eyes beyond badassitude?
kek, you can like whoever the **** you want, I don't care. What bothers me is the furious wanking most people do.
Also you brought up that ahsoka is more important than Shaak Ti, as if that's at all relevant to liking a character.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
kek, you can like whoever the **** you want, I don't care. What bothers me is the furious wanking most people do.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Also you brought up that ahsoka is more important than Shaak Ti, as if that's at all relevant to liking a character.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Why did I see you looking at this thread and know you were gonna specifically challenge what I said? Oh yeah, because bitching me out is half of your purpose on this forum because you hold me in a peculiar contempt I can't quite place my finger on.
Well, for one thing, because seeing you post is like running into a rare Pokemon. Impossible to pass up. But also, I've been trampling on posts all over this thread, so I'm not sure what gives the impression that you're alone in my sights. Hn, maybe it's because Ant's gone.
And nah, even excluding the intermediary Banites I have him lowered to five now.
Really? *counts on fingers* Well, I suppose that makes sense given Valkorion... You recently embraced Banite powerscaling, so probably Plagueis... Who else, Caedus? Oh. Wait. No, you must mean Sarasu.
And yeah, I'd say liking a character for how they look is no more deep and profound than liking them for their power, which happens, believe it or not, to not be the only reason I like Bane.
Don't be like that. I know you're all about the bald fetish too~ 🙂
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Well, for one thing, because seeing you post is like running into a rare Pokemon. Impossible to pass up.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
But also, I've been trampling on posts all over this thread, so I'm not sure what gives the impression that you're alone in my sights.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Hn, maybe it's because Ant's gone.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Really? *counts on fingers* Well, I suppose that makes sense given Valkorion... You recently embraced Banite powerscaling, so probably Plagueis... Who else, Caedus? Oh. Wait. No, you must mean Sarasu.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Don't be like that. I know you're all about the bald fetish too~ 🙂
Originally posted by NewGuy01
And yet somehow he still strikes you as the second most powerful Sith ever. First, until you had your life and passion tortured out of you atNorth KoreaSWF. Anywho, your obsession with The Ones and OP fanfiction characters are where dots are connected in regards to your power obsession.And obviously Talon's bod is her #1 personality trait.
😂
Originally posted by The Ellimistlhh I forgot about that but jedi did learn not to abuse their powers right? or did I read nonsense?
Yeah, but if someone like Vader can ragdoll General Kota, and Dooku can ragdoll Obi Wan, there's no way a non-Force sensitive would be so strong willed they couldn't be ragdolled by said characters.
Beni, I'm really not interested in debating this with you, so this will be my last post and a short one at that.
You simply seem to be misunderstanding what I'm saying here. I understand entirely the direction they were going with Ahsoka leaving the order, but the fact is, no there really weren't consequences. She wasn't forced to leave, she could have stayed, it was a choice. Even if you think the choice was an easy one. The fact of the matter is though, and you've brought it up already, we know what happens to everyone else. We know that the Jedi get massacred in Order 66, and we know her only escape was to be away from Anakin when it happened. Seeing Ahsoka leave, therefore, wasn't a big deal for anyone. The series was coming to a close, Order 66 was drawing near, and this was her survival.
So no, I really don't see the supposed emotional impact of all of it. She survived. She avoided everything bad that befell the Jedi order. The fact she leaves the order means she comes out of the entire ordeal in a better position than she left in the grand scheme of things, because we know it just means she lives in the long term. In the grand scheme of things, the audience knows that Ahsoka either leaves or dies, so when she leaves, why are we supposed to see it as a negative event?
The only negative to it is Anakin's emotional state, his friendship with Kenobi and the other Jedi, etc. And that negative feel would have been tenfold as effective if she had died. It emphasizes far more the immorality of the Jedi, it fractures relationships that we've seen Anakin develop with the fellow councilors over the seasons, and makes it so much more believable that he'd throw everything away for a chance to save Padme because he refuses to lose another woman so close to him.
PS: As for Anakin falling to the Dark Side, you seem to be of the belief that the Jedi had any part in her trial, except my extraditing her from the Order. He'd blame them, he wouldn't want them dead. You lack a fundamental understanding of Skywalker's character if you believe he'd go on a rampage, or do anything other than bottle up the feelings of resentment.
Originally posted by Selenialthis... lol rebels turned vader from this bad*** cyborg jedi killer force sensitive monster to this slow clanky man in lttle more than a walking iron lung with no skill with a blade... but on the other hand it opened up some development for rebels(adding ahsoka giving erza something other than being disneys "what if"
Beni, I'm really not interested in debating this with you, so this will be my last post and a short one at that.You simply seem to be misunderstanding what I'm saying here. I understand entirely the direction they were going with Ahsoka leaving the order, but the fact is, no there really weren't consequences. She wasn't forced to leave, she could have stayed, it was a choice. Even if you think the choice was an easy one. The fact of the matter is though, and you've brought it up already, we know what happens to everyone else. We know that the Jedi get massacred in Order 66, and we know her only escape was to be away from Anakin when it happened. Seeing Ahsoka leave, therefore, wasn't a big deal for anyone. The series was coming to a close, Order 66 was drawing near, and this was her survival.
So no, I really don't see the supposed emotional impact of all of it. She survived. She avoided everything bad that befell the Jedi order. The fact she leaves the order means she comes out of the entire ordeal in a better position than she left in the grand scheme of things, because we know it just means she lives in the long term. In the grand scheme of things, the audience knows that Ahsoka either leaves or dies, so when she leaves, why are we supposed to see it as a negative event?
The only negative to it is Anakin's emotional state, his friendship with Kenobi and the other Jedi, etc. And that negative feel would have been tenfold as effective if she had died. It emphasizes far more the immorality of the Jedi, it fractures relationships that we've seen Anakin develop with the fellow councilors over the seasons, and makes it so much more believable that he'd throw everything away for a chance to save Padme because he refuses to lose another woman so close to him.
PS: As for Anakin falling to the Dark Side, you seem to be of the belief that the Jedi had any part in her trial, except my extraditing her from the Order. He'd blame them, he wouldn't want them dead. You lack a fundamental understanding of Skywalker's character if you believe he'd go on a rampage, or do anything other than bottle up the feelings of resentment.
Originally posted by TgKWindRenegade
this... lol rebels turned vader from this bad*** cyborg jedi killer force sensitive monster to this slow clanky man in lttle more than a walking iron lung with no skill with a blade... but on the other hand it opened up some development for rebels(adding ahsoka giving erza something other than being disneys "what if"
Anakin was born after order 66
Originally posted by TgKWindRenegade
lhh I forgot about that but jedi did learn not to abuse their powers right? or did I read nonsense?
Yeah, Jedi are taught to control themselves, to not abuse their powers, lest they could be tempted to fall to the dark side because it would be so easy to just kill someone with a flick of their wrist.
Which is shown quite well in a few Fallen Jedi, that when they have no restraint, they dominate pretty much any Non-Force Sensitives.
Few come to mind are Lycan and Kibh Jeen. The former of which killed a group of guys by bursting their blood vessels to their brains with 0 effort and the latter who dominated an entire asteroid belt and then later hurls literal lighting from the sky.
Originally posted by SelenialCool, but I ask again, how is Ahsoka leaving her life behind, and everyone she cares about, because she can no longer trust them, of no consequence? Your position is baffling to say the least.
Beni, I'm really not interested in debating this with you, so this will be my last post and a short one at that.You simply seem to be misunderstanding what I'm saying here. I understand entirely the direction they were going with Ahsoka leaving the order, but the fact is, no there really weren't consequences. She wasn't forced to leave, she could have stayed, it was a choice. Even if you think the choice was an easy one. The fact of the matter is though, and you've brought it up already, we know what happens to everyone else. We know that the Jedi get massacred in Order 66, and we know her only escape was to be away from Anakin when it happened. Seeing Ahsoka leave, therefore, wasn't a big deal for anyone. The series was coming to a close, Order 66 was drawing near, and this was her survival.
And where are you getting this idea that it wasn't a big deal for everyone, did you conduct a survey on reactions of the audience? Maybe it wasn't a big deal for you, but speak for yourself deary.
So no, I really don't see the supposed emotional impact of all of it.Probably because you just don't like the character, I find it hard to believe you would have shed a tear if she died. mmm
She survived. She avoided everything bad that befell the Jedi order. The fact she leaves the order means she comes out of the entire ordeal in a better position than she left in the grand scheme of things, because we know it just means she lives in the long term. In the grand scheme of things, the audience knows that Ahsoka either leaves or dies, so when she leaves, why are we supposed to see it as a negative event?Oh yeah having everyone she ever knew and loved slaughtered partially at the hands of her master turned Sith Lord is a great outcome, I'm sure she jumped at the news. 🙄
Regardless, whether it turned out "well" for her or not in the end doesn't alter the tragedy of the moment, for the characters or for the audience. But as I said, it's supposed to be bittersweet, tragic and hopeful, she's leaving behind her old life and starting anew. 👆
The only negative to it is Anakin's emotional state, his friendship with Kenobi and the other Jedi, etc. And that negative feel would have been tenfold as effective if she had died. It emphasizes far more the immorality of the Jedi, it fractures relationships that we've seen Anakin develop with the fellow councilors over the seasons, and makes it so much more believable that he'd throw everything away for a chance to save Padme because he refuses to lose another woman so close to him.I'm sure, but at the expense of Ahsoka's character - this is nice and all but not really worth the sacrifice imo, at least not in the contexts of this arc, and certainly not within the contexts of the Jedi being responsible, and especially when Ahsoka's "loss" but not death, lends itself to many of these emotions.
PS: As for Anakin falling to the Dark Side, you seem to be of the belief that the Jedi had any part in her trial, except my extraditing her from the Order. He'd blame them, he wouldn't want them dead. You lack a fundamental understanding of Skywalker's character if you believe he'd go on a rampage, or do anything other than bottle up the feelings of resentment.I never said he'd want them dead, but the Jedi Order abandoning her to the courts which led her to be executed? Of course he'd blame them.
But yes Anakin is totally a rational and emotional stable person who bottles up his emotions rather than expresses them violently. Clearly I don't understand his character at all. 🙄
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Are you kidding me? Rebels managed to use Vader's shown fighting style in a pretty well choreographed way that had him outmatching someone who was matching prime Maul, Prime Maul admitting he couldn't defeat Vader alone, Vader surviving the explosion of the temple, and Vader casually shitting on everyone not named Maul or Ahsoka. I'd say they've done him justice in Rebels tbh
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Some of his most insane accomplishments ever happened in Rebels.