Originally posted by One Big Mob
Yeah, trannys are weirdos.You'd think "I want to cut my dick off and turn it into a vagina" would be met with heavy therapy at the least.
iirc, a person seeking gender reassignment surgery needs to complete 'X' amount of hours with a therapist and said therapist needs to sign-off that the person is of sound mind before a surgeon can perform the surgeries.
Originally posted by Robtard
iirc, a person seeking gender reassignment surgery needs to complete 'X' amount of hours with a therapist and said therapist needs to sign-off that the person is of sound mind before a surgeon can perform the surgeries.
Why would anyone trust a therapist so lacking in knowledge and wisdom that said therapist cannot convince a man he can solve the problems in his life unless he surgically alters himself to look like a woman?
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Why would anyone trust a therapist so lacking in knowledge and wisdom that said therapist cannot convince a man he can solve the problems in his life unless he surgically alters himself to look like a woman?
This assumes that gender reassignment is inherently wrong/unhealthy to a person's mentality. A silly assumption.
Originally posted by Robtard
This assumes that gender reassignment is inherently wrong/unhealthy to a person's mentality. A silly assumption.
Assuming a person who wants to hack off their genitals is unhealthy is a silly assumption?
Let me ask you a question, if you went up before a crowd of people and said exactly what I just said outloud, would you feel the slightest bit silly afterwards?
Originally posted by Surtur
Assuming a person who wants to hack off their genitals is unhealthy is a silly assumption?Let me ask you a question, if you went up before a crowd of people and said exactly what I just said outloud, would you feel the slightest bit silly afterwards?
You're comparing someone who has gone through hours and hours of mental and hormone therapy before they're even allowed to have a series of surgeries done by a professional as being the same as someone who one day picks up a knife and whacks off his whacker. That's silly, imo.
I personally don't know if said gender assignment people are happier post surgery to pre, but to assume they're all just nutters is stupid. Is it possible that they're actually happier having a body that matches what they are mentally or see themselves as?
Originally posted by Robtard
You're comparing someone who has gone through hours and hours of mental and hormone therapy before they're even allowed to have a series of surgeries done by a professional as being the same as someone who one day picks up a knife and whacks off his whacker. That's silly, imo.I personally don't know if said gender assignment people are happier post surgery to pre, but to assume they're all just nutters is stupid. Is it possible that they're actually happier having a body that matches what they are mentally or see themselves as?
Originally posted by Robtard
You're comparing someone who has gone through hours and hours of mental and hormone therapy before they're even allowed to have a series of surgeries done by a professional as being the same as someone who one day picks up a knife and whacks off his whacker. That's silly, imo.I personally don't know if said gender assignment people are happier post surgery to pre, but to assume they're all just nutters is stupid. Is it possible that they're actually happier having a body that matches what they are mentally or see themselves as?
I remember hearing a guy on the radio talking about the high rates of suicide even post operation. Also even though I phrased it poorly I wasn't actually talking about someone who will just randomly grab a knife and cut their own dick off. So I'll rephrase it and say someone who wants a surgeon to cut off their genitals is not healthy.
Also remember in some states you can actually get tax payers to pay for you to get your dick cut off.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
http://articles.latimes.com/2014/jan/28/local/la-me-ln-suicide-attempts-alarming-transgender-20140127
From your article:
"Law found that the risk of attempting suicide was especially severe for transgender or gender nonconforming people who had suffered discrimination or violence, such as being physically or sexually assaulted at work or school."
"Among transgender people who became homeless because of bias against their gender identity, 69% said they had tried to kill themselves. Out of those who had been turned away by a doctor because they were transgender or gender-nonconforming, 60% had attempted suicide sometime in their lives, the survey found."
"Suicide attempts were less common among transgender and gender-nonconforming people who said their family ties had remained strong after they came out."
"Researchers wrote that being recognized as transgender by other people probably made them a target of more discrimination, putting them at greater risk -- a finding that echoes earlier research."
"Researchers cautioned that it remains unclear whether the earlier survey, which included more than 6,400 people, was representative of the entire transgender and gender-nonconforming population of the United States. However, other surveys in the U.S. and abroad have also suggested "an unparalleled level of suicidal behavior among transgender adults," they wrote."
Being seen as a pariah can affect someone mentally. Not shocking. Which isn't surprising considering the hate transgender people receive. Just look at this thread as a micro-example.
Similar studies have been done with the suicide rates of homosexuals. Where it's strangely higher if said gay person was spurned compared to a one who's felt accepted by his/her family and peers.
Originally posted by Surtur
I remember hearing a guy on the radio talking about the high rates of suicide even post operation. Also even though I phrased it poorly I wasn't actually talking about someone who will just randomly grab a knife and cut their own dick off. So I'll rephrase it and say someone who wants a surgeon to cut off their genitals is not healthy.Also remember in some states you can actually get tax payers to pay for you to get your dick cut off.
OBM posted a link. Seems the high rate of suicide is linked to being seen as outcast and hated.
Originally posted by Robtard
Who said 'soley'. It does however support the stance fairly well.
That's not what it said though. It said that cases can be especially severe if that happens and says people with strong family ties are less likely to do it. That really doesn't sound like you could attribute even a significant amount of it to being an outcast.
In other words it sounds like being an outcast can exacerbate the situation.
Originally posted by Surtur
That's not what it said though. It said that cases can be especially severe if that happens and says people with strong family ties are less likely to do it. That really doesn't sound like you could attribute even a significant amount of it to being an outcast.In other words it sounds like being an outcast can exacerbate the situation.
My advice to you is to read the article then.
Originally posted by Robtard
My advice to you is to read the article then.
I don't feel it was wrong for me to assume you presented the most relevant parts of the article when you quoted it. For which, like I said, it sounds like being an outcast exacerbates the situation rather then creating it.
EDIT: Okay I read it and of the parts you left out and didn't quote I don't feel those really change my stance. It more or less sounds like it makes the situation worse. Also what about the fact that in states like Oregon you can get the tax payers to pay for your operation? Which doesn't have anything to do with whether or not its unhealthy, but it's still wrong to me.