Originally posted by abhilegend
That was just to make it clear that the writers showed the fight in different ways. In Starlin's writing, both are enveloped in psychic auras and when Thanos defeats doppelganger in astral combat, he reverts back to physical body.There is no need to cite words like "astral suicide" if it was a simple physical battle.
http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/2586504-warlockinfinitywatch10_19.jpg
On The very next page, it is made clear that the body is merely a husk.
Or the writers didn't consult each other. Infinity war and crusade were infamous for that.
That's why I asked you to read the scans.
Really? The clone never tried to get free?
That was a snapshot of a long fight which mostly occurred off panel.
Nobody said it does. It's still in consideration though.
A scene doesn't becomes non canon just because you don't like it.
First thing, Quasar's constructs weaken after an assault. Second, Warlock assisted him in destroying the dome.
Third, it wasn't written by the actual writer of the fight where Thanos defeated the clone.
Just like I wouldn't say Starlin wrote Sue helping Thanos defeating the clone.
Haha, who said I wanted to help any character in this thread?
Bottom line, Thanos never punched through his clone.
So basically what you're saying is that apparently Sue watching and helping bring about the downfall to the clone doesn't count because it was just another writer and Thanos for sure was in the astral plane because the word astral was used?
Astral suicide was used because he was worried about what would happen to his own mind and spirit if he killed this clone. Him saying he is merely a husk is finding out that nothing would happen to himself. It's entirely explained in the scans you told me to read.
In fact the only thing in the scans that even begins to defend you is 2 words... so why you are telling me to read is weird. Not the mention you see nothing wrong or odd with "suicide" being used there. Because why would he say that in a mental battle he was entirely sure he was going to win?
The fight was never in the astral plane though. There is no proof that it was. You're essentially saying one depiction of the fight doesn't count because the word "astral" was used.
Not to mention the writer of the Sue fight was the editor in chief of the entire Infinity War event in Tom Defalco
I am of the firm belief that Tom consulted with Jim. The fight was not in the astral plane.
It was like a panel or two of a choke. He grabbed a sitting ally and choked him briefly in a surprise attack basically. You're putting way too much stock in that.
Of which Thor wasn't shown to stalemate Thanos. We however do have more to the battle in tie ins, but apparently tie ins don't count anymore if they provide more context.
I never said it was non canon, and that's exactly what you're trying to do with the Sue fight anyway.
It's just entirely irrelevant. "Hey, check out this low feat, crazy huh?" What purpose does this have? What purpose does arguing it have? It is not a consideration at all.
Quasar's constructs are only shown to weaken once they get cracked or he loses focus. They were never shown to crack, nor was he ever worried about it. And Adam Warlock was never shown to fire an attack, there was no green in that beam. All his showed was energy as in Warlock was ready to use the soul gem. And even if Warlock did help, the soul gem wouldn't exactly be the biggest help against something without a soul like a shield.
And even if we assume they split the blast 50-50 (even though again, no green was shown in the blast), that still makes Thanos more powerful than any two heroes there.
Either way you want to slice it, it doesn't matter.
It's also funny how you want to diminish that scene when you literally just said that a scene like that doesn't become non canon just because you don't like it.
I'd have to say a scene where normal Thanos battles normal people has a lot more relevant than showing how hopeless trying to defeat IG Thanos is. And I'd have to say that the context surrounding that battle that you yourself admitted was largely off panel should not become non canon.
And I was woefully misinformed on this new rule we have on characters from different writers not being able to be used. Apparently Starlin would have written Thanos a lot different than Gruen if he wrote that scene or something? The guy who wrote fp Thanos basically tanking IG punches would have had a problem with that?
This isn't a case where one writer decides to go off the deep end and do whatever he wants. There is not one tie in you could point to where one Thanos is more powerful than the other. There's not much difference besides the context other writers decide to include.
Nobody said you wanted to back anyone. Like I said, all you came to do was lowball and spread false information.
Let's reiterate here:
There is no proof of this battle happening in the astral plane. All Thanos was talking about was destroying his own self with killing the clone. Just because the word "astral" was used, that doesn't automatically mean a mental battle.
Tom Defalco, the editor in chief of the event and the editor in chief of Marvel wrote a tie in where Sue watched and helped Thanos defeat the clone the entire time he was supposed to be in the astral plane.
And that's it. That's all that needs to be said to tell that it never happened in the astral plane.
