Anyway, Jay has put a beating on Black Adam before and Adam is a lot faster than Herc is and probably around the same level of strength and durability
Herc is more skilled than Adam is though, most likely Herc will try to use AOE attacks and may even get a hit in on Jay, but Jay already has already shown his durability when Zoom punched him from New York to Dallas
If Herc does get that lucky shot in, all that's going to do is tell Jay to be careful and not get hit by him and take him out sooner when he realizes Herc is a potential threat.
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRockI think so since Herc really wouldn't be able to hit him. Adam tends to slug it out but if he should win without too much trouble if he actually uses his speed and picks Herc apart.
So in a Pis less Cis less fight, Black Adam should Stomp herculese
Herc is def a more skilled combatant and sometimes skill can overcome physical stats but with Adam and more so Jay there's too much speed to overcome.
Originally posted by RadZoa
Anyway, Jay has put a beating on Black Adam before and Adam is a lot faster than Herc is and probably around the same level of strength and durabilityHerc is more skilled than Adam is though, most likely Herc will try to use AOE attacks and may even get a hit in on Jay, but Jay already has already shown his durability when Zoom punched him from New York to Dallas
If Herc does get that lucky shot in, all that's going to do is tell Jay to be careful and not get hit by him and take him out sooner when he realizes Herc is a potential threat.
Jay has never "put a beating" on BA.
There is the one issue where the JSA were fighting BA and Jay laid multiple blows on Teth that he couldnt react to. However at no point did those blows appear to in anyway harm Teth.
Teth was still able to thunderclap and out civilians at risk to get Jay out of his hair.
Not really seeing what Jay is going to do to put Herc down. Due to his age and the heart atrack risk while hes the power to he cant risk IMP, because i diubt he can push his speed high enough without risking a heart attack.
I'd call it a stalemate leaning towards Herc. Herc shouldnt be able to tag him but if he gets that lucky strike (al la BA in WWIII with the swinging arm vs Jay) he can take a few.
Originally posted by beatboks
Jay has never "put a beating" on BA.
There is the one issue where the JSA were fighting BA and Jay laid multiple blows on Teth that he couldnt react to. However at no point did those blows appear to in anyway harm Teth.
Teth was still able to thunderclap and out civilians at risk to get Jay out of his hair.Not really seeing what Jay is going to do to put Herc down. Due to his age and the heart atrack risk while hes the power to he cant risk IMP, because i diubt he can push his speed high enough without risking a heart attack.
I'd call it a stalemate leaning towards Herc. Herc shouldnt be able to tag him but if he gets that lucky strike (al la BA in WWIII with the swinging arm vs Jay) he can take a few.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/30145/2029453-black_adam_and_jay_2.jpg
What exactly do you think is going on here? His standard punches are enough to cause Adam to spit blood.
There's also the fact that Jay could steal all of Herc's speed and leave him a statue like Flash did to Inertia.
Originally posted by RadZoaAdam was hurt but otherwise unaffected. Herc's pain tolerance is probably above adam's.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/30145/2029453-black_adam_and_jay_2.jpgWhat exactly do you think is going on here? His standard punches are enough to cause Adam to spit blood.
There's also the fact that Jay could steal all of Herc's speed and leave him a statue like Flash did to Inertia.
No he can't. Riv specifically said that he's not allowed to use that for this fight.
Originally posted by deathslash
Adam was hurt but otherwise unaffected. Herc's pain tolerance is probably above adam's.No he can't. Riv specifically said that he's not allowed to use that for this fight.
Adam was hurt to the point where Jay could draw blood from him, and I need to see evidence of Herc's pain tolerance and more importantly his durability being above Adam's before I buy the argument that Jay can't hurt him.
He said no prep and no BFR
*edit* saw where he said no speed stealing down the page
Originally posted by RadZoa
Adam was hurt to the point where Jay could draw blood from him, and I need to see evidence of Herc's pain tolerance and more importantly his durability being above Adam's before I buy the argument that Jay can't hurt him.He said no prep and no BFR
*edit* saw where he said no speed stealing down the page
Look at Adams fight with Ares in new avengers where he was shot with hydra blood bullets and and tanked a napalm bomb.
Originally posted by RadZoa
Adam? You mean Hercs? Sounds cool but Adam survived Martian's heat vision point blank which was said to rival the "birth of a star"
I will call hyperbole, just because statements like that abound all over comics. Temperatures like that would ignite the atmosphere, destroying MMH, lol. Moreover, the scan you showed, showed nothing that MMH's HV used was hot enough to rival stars being born.
Pain tolerance - Herc would rather set himself on fire with napalm, or kill himself, rather than suffer more pain. Yet, he was still able to decimate SHIELD, and fight Ares:
Originally posted by DarkSaint85I don't think so, we already know that Superman's (and Martian's comparable HV) can reach those levels. Yeah, it probably would ignite the atmosphere but we've already seen Heat vision being used excessively on Earth without any collateral damage (when Supes vaporized the Doomsday army) logically everytime Superman or any character in his tier throws a punch it should logically destroy everything within miles
Temperatures like that would ignite the atmosphere
Originally posted by DarkSaint85 that MMH's HV used was hot enough to rival stars being born.
J'ohn may not have been going all out but it's fair to assume that, knowing Adam, he used a fair amount of force with his HV to try to stop him and was partially successful as it did somewhat burn Adam's face. Adam wasn't very phased when half of his face was burned, that's ridiculous pain tolerance
Lets also not forget that Adam was getting his face turned into pudding by a dozen + other characters in WW3 and was still fighting and wasn't slowing down much. That's insane damage soak and pain tolerance
Originally posted by DarkSaint85 Pain tolerance - Herc would rather set himself on fire with napalm
Napalm shouldn't even hurt Hercules even if he doused himself with it and lit himself on fire. That aside, again it's a cool feat but that doesn't show Herc having any higher of a pain tolerance than Adam does.
