Hercules Vs Jay Garrick

Started by abhilegend5 pages

Originally posted by beatboks
As per underlined not a feat of jay's.

Alan isn't a brick either


Spirit King doesn't amps anybody.

Jay has autoshields.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But.....Billy is not in this thread.

Hell, he's not even being compared to Herc!


Cap and Adam are absolutely equal in every aspect.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Abhi off his meds again

Are you finished trolling?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sentry tried speedblitzing Herc.

Didn't go too well for him.

You do know Sentry isn't as fast as Jay, right? His best pure speed feat, as I recall, is when Void has a gun to someones temple and pulls the trigger and Sentry is there 15 feet away and he makes it in time to save the person before the bullet leaves the gun.

Other then that he just flies fast in space. Also Hercules has been around for decades, correct? So he has shown consistent speed on Jay's level? He'd need better feats then what you showed. Maybe I'm forgetting a really awesome Sentry speed feat, but what else has Herc done on that level?

That's not his best speed ft.

Originally posted by carver9
That's not his best speed ft.

Okay, and what other speed feats does Hercules have to suggest he could tag Jay Garrick?

It seems like we are suddenly granting any brick with some vague reaction feats the ability to react to high end speedsters.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Spirit King doesn't amps anybody.

Jay has autoshields.

Cap and Adam are absolutely equal in every aspect.

Are you finished trolling?

SERIOUSLY? Marvel and Adams feats are not interchangeable and therefore have no bearing on this thread.

Secondly the question asked about a brick not a possessed magical lantern. Get your weak ass arguments outta here

I mean so how far do we want to take this? Let's see, the following people attempt to blitz Hercules:

-Wally West
-The Runner
-PC Superman

What is the outcome?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Spirit King doesn't amps anybody.

Jay has autoshields.

Amps had nothing to do with it. If Jay was possessed than it isn't what he would do in character is it?? Jay doesn't fight like that normally.

O_o how does that make any diference to the fact that Alan's durability is nothing like BA's or Herc's????

If people want to say Jay loses merely because he won't do something he is capable of doing I'm cool with that. Since it says more about Jay then it ever would about Hercules.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
SERIOUSLY? Marvel and Adams feats are not interchangeable and therefore have no bearing on this thread.

Adam can take anything Cap did. Its not transferring feats. They are as equal as you can get in comics.

Secondly the question asked about a brick not a possessed magical lantern. Get your weak ass arguments outta here

WTF are you talking about now? Durability is durability.

You want to see Alan's durability? How about Nabu?

Originally posted by beatboks
There is no blood in that scan. Here are more of Jay's "NORMAL BLOWS" from the same fight
http://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30145/2029452-black_adam_and_jay_1.jpg

Clearly no damage her with more blows and jay is trying to "wear him down" . If there were blood in your scan, there would be a sign of it in the front on facing panel after the blow and there isn't. like this
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/67407/1340518-126174_racerx_wwiiib4_p10_super.jpg

Knocking the "SPIT" out of someone with blows to the face is NOTHING (and thousands of blows at that - less than nothing in the way of damage).

lmao what? theres clearly blood flying from adams mouth get outta here

Originally posted by abhilegend
Adam can take anything Cap did. Its not transferring feats. They are as equal as you can get in comics.

WTF are you talking about now? Durability is durability.

You want to see Alan's durability? How about Nabu?

Abhi. Ok, care to explain why you keep bringing up Marvel, Adam, and Scott in a Hercules vs Jay thread? Jay didnt beat anyone mentioned straight up so whats the point

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Abhi. Ok, care to explain why you keep bringing up Marvel, Adam, and Scott in a Hercules vs Jay thread? Jay didnt beat anyone mentioned straight up so whats the point

he brought up marvel and adam because they are equally durable, and scott because jay was able to effect a more powerful opponent with his punches. hes trying to say jay can effect adam whos more durable than herc

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I saw that too 😁.

I wanna nip the whole "speed trumps all" bs that seems to float thruout this forum. It's just not keeping within character and definitely not true


God yes, that is sofa king retarded.
Either people just misread comics, or ignore them to "win". Not sure which is worse.

Can Jay beat him? Yes. For a majority? Depends. Been a while since i read some Garrick.

Originally posted by Surtur
I mean so how far do we want to take this? Let's see, the following people attempt to blitz Hercules:

-Wally West
-The Runner
-PC Superman

What is the outcome?


I don't know about Wally West, but PC Superman and Runner would break Hercules with or without a speedblitz.

Thanks for the bump.

Originally posted by Surtur
Which version of Jay? Some versions can speed steal, so he'd stomp Herc. Even without that he's still way way too fast for Herc to ever lay a hand on.

Speed force dumped King of Tears, after it tore apart Spectre.

Although he also got lost in time, so.. maybe not a good move here.

Didnt know that. Cool.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Abhi. Ok, care to explain why you keep bringing up Marvel, Adam, and Scott in a Hercules vs Jay thread? Jay didnt beat anyone mentioned straight up so whats the point
This has already been explained to you, they keep getting brought up to show that Jay can hurt characters that are as if not more durable than Herc is. Jay didn't beat any of them, he doesn't have to beat them to beat Herc as Herc himself couldn't beat any of them.

Originally posted by Surtur
I mean so how far do we want to take this? Let's see, the following people attempt to blitz Hercules:

-Wally West
-The Runner
-PC Superman

What is the outcome?

All 3 stomp him.