Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yes, on his own, with his own pure H2H skill. Which is why the system then did a series of super fast calculations after which Tony said "Now let's kick his ass", after which he launched a very effective counteroffensive, which knocked Cap on his ass. Cap's pure H2H skill > Iron Man, but Iron Man's suit can heavily amp his H2H skills.
I agree but it still doesn't change Ironman got bested.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
And then what happened, he got back up and wrecked Tony.
Yes, but did you miss the part where
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Winter Soldier managed to grab Stark's leg with his remaining arm, distracting him and leaving an opening, at a point where Tony had the clear advantage? Nevermind that Tony's focus, and the object of his malice, was WS. We even see him initially just trying to restrain Cap with those leg cuffs.Fact is two-on-one, they barely pulled it off. But that is NOT any low showing. Any kind of win over Iron Man is leaps and bounds above anything the pair did in any of the previous films. As you pointed out, this is a guy who has managed to hold out against Thor.
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Iron Man jobbed to Cap in this movie much like Hulk jobbed to Iron Man in AoU. I'm not happy about that. Iron Man SHOULD have won and won easily. That being said he obviously didn't want to kill Cap. His unibeam obliterating WS's arm is proof that if Tony "Wanted it, Cap'd be dead already". 😂
Eh, I still maintain that
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the victory the two achieved, regardless of whatever other factors were at play, is still extremely impressive. I mean even in that scenario, how long would a pair of Khan or Ozy clones have lasted? This movie definitely cemented Cap, WS and also Black Panther as being above the rest in their general weight class.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombSpoiler:
Iron Man jobbed to Cap in this movie much like Hulk jobbed to Iron Man in AoU. I'm not happy about that. Iron Man SHOULD have won and won easily. That being said he obviously didn't want to kill Cap. His unibeam obliterating WS's arm is proof that if Tony "Wanted it, Cap'd be dead already". 😂
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Eh, I still maintain thatSpoiler:😛
the victory the two achieved, regardless of whatever other factors were at play, is still extremely impressive. I mean even in that scenario, how long would a pair of Khan or Ozy clones have lasted? This movie definitely cemented Cap, WS and also Black Panther as being above the rest in their general weight class.
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they would last even longer and look even better
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Dunno about that givenSpoiler:
Spidey pretty much stomped WS.
Well,
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Spiderman should be in the next weight class IMO. He should have at least edged Cap out as well, based purely on stats. I mean more like the Khan/Marv/Ozy/Wolverine etc. group of guys, seeing as some people were still arguing for them against Cap/WS prior to this film.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller[/B]
Well,Spoiler:be in the next weight class IMO. He should have at least edged Cap out as well, based purely on stats. I mean more like the Khan/Marv/Ozy/Wolverine etc. group of guys, seeing as some people were still arguing for them against Cap/WS prior to this film.
Spiderman [B]should
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Also to be fair, if there was ever a time for
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Cap to best Spidey, this was it, with Spidey being a 16 year old noob
Originally posted by Darth ThorWs. I don't find Cap cool but I agree with his philosophy on this matter. Quit being so childish all the time. Told you what would happen. Suck it. Make mine marvel you DC loving loser.
^ LMAO @ Quan attempting to bandwagon onto team Cap after already originally declaring his distaste for Cap and his non-interest in Civil War 😂Spoiler:
IM won first, but didn't finish it. And all that in a confined space. The OP here had no such stips. Out in the open, a full powered IM obviously destroys these 2.Don't forget Cap shouting to WS to run for his life. And that all in Cap's own movie!
Fights were superb but you love batman v. Superman which fell flat.