Originally posted by Syndicate
You overestimate me if you think I'm able to understand your gibberish.Of course I'd accept anything matching the novel. My statement only stands for stuff that doesn't AND is contradictory.
Originally posted by SyndicateI'm not saying the comic is less valid, I'm saying in the novel he's knocked on his ass and literally acts as if that had him beat.
And? It's supplementary material. I didn't see you having a problem with the TIE feat I posted from the comic.
He might be temporarily winded but I don't know how that signified his ability to use the force offensively especially against an opponent who's also tired.So your going to ignore the obvious signposting in the novel he was imitating weakness, and actually claim, with a straight face, that the most powerful Sith Lord in the galaxy couldn't even stand after being hit with a TK attack - despite recovering from Yoda's in short order?Or because he was simply capable of doing so even after having undergone Galen's force attack.
I don't no whether to laugh or cry at this point. 😬
Lol, right. Just like Obi Wan allowing himself to sink completely into the Force or Dooku being the axis point of the universe was a moment of Oneness.Wow, what a horrific level of biased you've contracted.
And seeing as Stover didn't write this book, what is even your point?
"A squadron of stormtroopers ran into the room, led by a limping Darth Vader. They raised their blasters to gun down the rebels as they fled up the Rogue Shadow's ramp." - The Force Unleashed.OK, he's still not at the center of the explosion."Through the dense smoke, two figures were visible from the apprentice's rarefied perspective. Darth Vader struggled to his feet from the rubble, even more damaged then before."
You remembered wrong.
Oh and just as a little extra the text clearly makes note of Galen dropping his defenses.Not sure why seeing as he was at the center of the explosion, though granted it does suggest Vader's Force superiority over him and that he was emotionally unbalanced by Marek in their duel. 👆""No!" The apprentice cried, dropping his defenses to strike one last time at the Imperials." - The Force Unleashed.
It killed him because he actively lowered his defenses as I showed above. Also if you're saying this is his best feat then you're going to have to argue the disparity between that and Vader being outmatched by Galen just minutes before.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
By that same token the novel also contradicts the game, upon which it is based. Guess the game matters more. uhuh
Since there's only one version of the novel that clearly describes the events that go on and is not contradicted by multiple similar sources as the video game cutscenes are I'd have to disagree that they're situations are similar.
Originally posted by Syndicate
Since there's only one version of the novel that clearly describes the events that go on and is not contradicted by multiple similar sources as the video game cutscenes are I'd have to disagree that they're situations are similar.
Originally posted by Syndicatehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akowDATf9mY&t=4m8s
Galen or are you talking about the Starkiller clone that has unclear memories of his template's past life?
Originally posted by Beniboybling
I'm not saying the comic is less valid, I'm saying in the novel he's knocked on his ass and literally acts as if that had him beat.So your going to ignore the obvious signposting in the novel he was imitating weakness, and actually claim, with a straight face, that the most powerful Sith Lord in the galaxy couldn't even stand after being hit with a TK attack - despite recovering from Yoda's in short order?I don't no whether to laugh or cry at this point. 😬 Wow, what a horrific level of biased you've contracted.
And seeing as Stover didn't write this book, what is even your point?
OK, he's still not at the center of the explosion.Not sure why seeing as he was at the center of the explosion, though granted it does suggest Vader's Force superiority over him and that he was emotionally unbalanced by Marek in their duel. 👆
He's knocked down and holds his hands up over his face. Hardly an admission of not being able to retaliate.
Given he was thrown on to his back by said force push and had to get up from that as well and the position he was in didn't seem to hinder him from attacking Rahm or engaging Galen I don't see what the issue is. Either one is probably better then emotional constipation tbh.
How is that bias? Because plenty of writers use hyperbole like that. It doesn't mean their characters actually entered a state of Oneness.
You're right. Palpatine and Galen were though by those quotes we know he's caught within it.
Because he needed to cause a large enough distraction whilst simultaneously giving the Rogue Shadow a push so that the Rebel Leaders could escape.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akowDATf9mY&t=4m8s
Again in a cutscene that I believe is contradicted by other game versions though even if we were to take the statement at face value it would likely only mean that Sidious's cowering was false and that he had energy left in him, not that he let Galen blast him.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The novel matched the Wii version of the game which contradicts two both versions that all match each other. So it's an even split, I'm afraid.
If they match the novel they're fine. If not and they're also contradicted by other versions then they're not. Simple as that.
Originally posted by SyndicateKota limped up behind him and put a hand on his shoulder. "That's it, boy," he said with rough pride. "He's beaten. Let it go."
He's knocked down and holds his hands up. Hardly an admission of defeat.
😂
Given he was thrown on to his back by said force push and had to get up from that as well and the position he was in didn't seem to hinder him from attacking Rahm or engaging Galen I don't see what the issue is. Either one is probably better then emotional constipation tbh.Because against Yoda he was still capable of fighting, yet against Marek he was beaten. 😬
How is that bias? Because plenty of writers use hyperbole like that. It doesn't mean their characters actually entered a state of Oneness.Because your finding the most contrived ways to dismiss every clear piece of evidence that contradicts your point? Its palpable my friend, and it smells.
And please, prove Sean Williams is one of these writers. The fact that he signposts his metaphors in that passage pretty much disproving otherwise.
And even if it were hyperbole it can hardly be construed as a metaphor for "tired/depleted" lmao.
Because he needed to cause a large enough distraction whilst simultaneously giving the Rogue Shadow a push so that the Rebel Leaders could escape.Eh? What is this a response to?
Originally posted by SyndicateAn example of aforementioned biased.
Again in a cutscene that I believe is contradicted by other game versions though even if we were to take the statement at face value it would likely only mean that Sidious's cowering was false and that he had energy left in him, not that he let Galen blast him.
Its a canon interpretation of the event. The other game versions being different interpretations, which are also canon.
And what is does is set a precedent for Palpatine pretending to be weak, and easily overcome by Marek's powers, as he appears to be in the comic. Go figure.