Is it right to give bonus points on the SAT's to certain races?

Started by Newjak7 pages

Originally posted by Surtur
Poverty is one of the real problems, but they don't want to talk about the others. The privilege comes in when you have a lower standard set for you based on race. This is wrong, correct? It is racist, correct? All races should have to meet the same standards, correct?

Blacks aren't the only people suffering from poverty in this country and thus they shouldn't have lower standards set for them because of that. To which no, even if blacks represent the people with the highest rates of poverty it still doesn't mean they are the only ones suffering or should get any kind of special treatment based solely on race.

What other problems are you talking about?

And yes I do not believe SAT scores should be changed on race but we still can't ignore the context of why this happened in the first place and why it still maybe needed today. Doing so is throwing out half of the key points about this conversation wouldn't you agree?

The rampant f*cking crime in these places, the victim mentality, the mentality of always blaming the cops, this whole bullshit where we can't talk about harsh truths anymore because someone is going to get their feelings hurt.

Like I said go check the recent links I put up in the "black lives matters" topic. Sheriff points out there is a huge increase in crime in this area and it's mostly blacks? Oops, NAACP has to get involved even though the sheriff wasn't actually saying anything false. Criminal teens steal a car, drive it into a pond, drown because they are f*cking stupid? Parents blame the cops.

Shit like this? Is what has people so pissed off. There is no accountability, no responsibility on the parents part, we all want to stick our damn fingers in our ears and pretend this all isn't happening. This case isn't even anomaly, that is the scary part man.

There are huge elephants in the room people want to ignore.

honestly, if this kind of mentality goes on it's going to weed out the trouble makers anyway. it's sad, it's going to take a long time, and it's rough, but inevitably the cry babies and criminals will be taken out.

I just think people are going crazy these days, they would rather whine at the cops then face the problems from within their own communities! They literally look for any excuse to try to deflect responsibility.

That is some kind of weird f*cking privilege, I don't even know what to call it. The privilege of being god damn ignorant I guess. The privilege of turning a blind eye to the real issues and just pretend the worst thing you have to face is evil racism. I'm just tired of it, enough is enough already.

What a clown you are.

you nor i will change it. people like this only exist because the countries that cater to these types have money and the ability to hold them up. it can't last forever. it won't last forever. eventually life will come around and these types won't last.

Yep, people will just ignore it until it becomes impossible to ignore. All we can do is sit back and watch.

the sjw complain about the over incarceration of blacks. others say that is is because there is a strong gang culture amongst lower class blacks....sadly more blacks proportionately are in this lower class than other races etc.
these things just aren't changing that much. blacks are seemingly going to be incarcerated at this rate indefinitely. sure, there is the federal clemency passing, the two point reduction for the crack laws etc....but it still isn't making much of a difference. over time mass incarceration and darwin awards (those gta girls drowning etc) are going to affect the American black population significantly. Eventually i forsee that the population of blacks who aren't incarcerated will for the majority be responsible citizens and take back their communities from the dregs. It will take time, and many will be incarcerated, but it is inevitable. Equilibrium will take hold and there will be a big cultural change. it will be good but it will take time and heavy losses.

It truly is a cultural issue that is sustained by do-gooders that just don't see the harm they cause.

I just hope it happens sooner rather then later. I mean watching these people trying to question this cop about the drownings..lol it's just, it's sad. They just don't want to enter this new fangled thing we call "reality". How many more of these lives that they claim matter will be lost before they get their shit together?

Meh, at this point we just can sit and wait. I don't know what to do, not all poor people act this way, if you go to a trailer park you won't have people gunning down little kids in gang wars, etc. so I dunno. Feels like it is just all getting out of control.

and bardock came on with the personal insults. great

Oh is that what that buzzing sound was?

i think we are seeing a boiling point now honestly.

Originally posted by Raisen
and bardock came on with the personal insults. great
This is no safe space buddy.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
This is no safe space buddy.

lol. yeah. i expect no safe space anywhere. not even in my home honestly. i can choose who enters it but not who invades it.

anybody else notice these boards are a lot more polite without hushgarak around?

Equality as it should exist should relate to freedom, and that is how progress happens. Equal opportunity is equality as it should exist in our society.

Now this bullshit on the otherhand is blatantly constrictive. It is literally applying racism and devaluing the accomplishments of certain races in a great attempt to equalize things, which is pure and utter horseshit and if that's equality, I don't want it.

If someone has earned their way into a college they've earned their way, I don't think what race they are should matter at all there. Especially considering race doesn't ****ing matter in regards to the circumstances your born in. If a white person is born in poverty or a black person is born in poverty it's literally the exact same thing. Sure racism in the past may have lead to the poverty they were born into, but that doesn't change the fact that for both the white and black person they were born into a disadvantageous situation due to factors beyond their control.

If you wanna actually bring a positive form of equality, create equal opportunity in the education system from the beginning, don't try and adjust for it once their already out of high school because that's honestly a pile of horseshit.

How can you be both for equality of opportunity and against policies that take the inequality of opportunity into account?

I'm not for fighting inequality with more inequality. So no, different races shouldn't have the bar set lower or higher for them.

Originally posted by Bardock42
How can you be both for equality of opportunity and against policies that take the inequality of opportunity into account?
Why does the differentiation of standards take into account race instead of what's actually giving them less opportunities to have as well-rounded an education, like poverty (I am assuming this is the case, because I assume people weren't stupid enough to not mention that this is taken into account)? Why does race factor in at all?

Because oppression and poverty and shit! Only black people are poor and have no opportunities. We've treated Asians beautifully in this country, which is why they get none of this sweet sweet equality. You see when we put the Japanese in concentration camps we injected them all with experimental hormones to increase intelligence. We did them a favor.

I saw this old Japanese guy on the street the other day and just looked at him and said "you owe me" and he kind of nodded like he KNEW he owed me.