they at least want us to think arya is going to off dany. im betting now someone not highborn will become king/queen if they even decide to still have the same one true royal leader approach. and no you could always see dany ending like this, maybe it was because of the circumstance but it was always here waiting to be let out.
Originally posted by staxamillion
they at least want us to think arya is going to off dany. im betting now someone not highborn will become king/queen if they even decide to still have the same one true royal leader approach. and no you could always see dany ending like this, maybe it was because of the circumstance but it was always here waiting to be let out.
We know Arya is going to kill someone if Melissandre was to be believed. Brown eyes, blue eyes, green eyes. Walter Frey, Night King, and...who knows.
Dany has green eyes btw.
Originally posted by Surtur
We know Arya is going to kill someone if Melissandre was to be believed. Brown eyes, blue eyes, green eyes. Walter Frey, Night King, and...who knows.Dany has green eyes btw.
The eyes don't have to mean Arya kills anyone.
They could be the eyes of masks Arya wore when she was training, which add up to the ones said.
Or, they could be the eyes The Waif is wearing, who is acting as Arya to finish up her list.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Oh boy. These giant dragon killing scorpions sure are great. It'd be a real shame if we all suddenly became severely brain damaged and blind and were rendered totally useless with them right at the key moment.Oh boy. I'm sure glad the queen spent a fortune bringing this big fancy from army over the sea to protect us. I'm sure they'll put up a great fight.
They have pinpoint accuracy and machine gun fire from limited spots on a ship, but an entire array of them across every approach angle can't do squat.
Originally posted by cdtm
The eyes don't have to mean Arya kills anyone.They could be the eyes of masks Arya wore when she was training, which add up to the ones said.
Or, they could be the eyes The Waif is wearing, who is acting as Arya to finish up her list.
I think it's not very likely they don't mean she kills someone. There could be someone else with green eyes she kills, I'm not sure who has green eyes on the show.
If Arya turns out to be the Waif or possibly even Jacqen, that explains a lot of things along the way but also opens up others 'but why'.
I still think Arya is Arya. Though part of me wonders if it will end with Arya pulling of a mask and telling either Sansa or Bran (whomever survives), you're the last Stark.
Originally posted by Surtur
Also I was surprised everybody went along with killing Varys. What was the point? If he was going to tell someone he already would have by that point. They were just like...meh, gotta happen. Then everybody is super shocked when she turns evil. Is everybody drunk when making decisions on this show?
Daenerys's stronghold is a vastly different place from the King's Landing where lot of corrupt and potential plotters existed.
It is also possible that Varys outed Daenerys to Cercei when the former was returning to her stronghold.
Dany becoming a psychopathic mass murderer just makes no sense. I can understand being in conflict with Jon about the throne, but what she did to King's Landing was worse than anything Joffrey, Ramsay, and Cersei combined have ever done, and supposedly it was spurned on by the death of Missandei? It seems as though the writers rushed to make her evil just so Jon will have to tragically kill his girlfriend (even though the show already did that plotline much better with Ygritte). What was the point of all of the screentime showing her freeing the slaves of Essos if she was always just meant to turn into an evil psychopath? I know she's executed enemies in cold blood before, but it always seemed like ruthless necessity that was honestly no different than the other characters (i.e. her murder of the Tarlys was no more ruthless than Jon's execution of Janos Slynt and Olly). Her massacre of King's Landing was nothing but unjustifiable petulant sadism meant for shock value, and is just another deathblow that the writers have been dealing to all of the show's crucial thematic elements and character arcs.
Also, Jaime's character arc was a complete waste of time, and his journey to Winterfell was entirely pointless, as was his fight with Euron (and the Euron character as a whole). I did like Arya and the Hound this episode, as it was exhilarating watching Arya be horrified at the massacre, and Cleganebowl (probably was the only plotline on this show that) was actually worth the hype. I felt that Cersei had a fitting death, as her arrogance finally collapsed into helplessness and regret, although it seems that, like Jon's prophecy, the writers decided to subvert expectations rather than deliver on the build up.
I'm interested to see how the final episode will play out but I can't help but feel that I wasted a decade of my life watching a nihilistic shaggy dog story. With the Night King dead and Danerys irreedemably evil, I can't really come up with a meaningful point of the story. As a matter of fact, by making Dany evil and Arya killing the Night King, it seems as though the writers are forcing Jon to take the Iron Throne just to subvert all of the show's earlier themes bout how familial tribalism is self-destructive. Jon has no other reason to be alive than to fulfill his Targaryen legacy of taking the throne, even though both he and the audience know it's worthless (and buried underneath rubble). And if the spoilers are true that
Spoiler:, then that's even worse, because how does
Bran becomes King
Spoiler:give any meaningful insight into human nature, which is what this show always promised to be?
an omniscient apathetic paraplegic being ruler
All in all, this show is just such a massive disappointment, and the only saving grace I can think of is that maybe GRRM lied to the writers about the ending so that the shows wouldn't spoil his books, which he actually has been working on instead of sitting on his lazy ass. Still, I can't believe that Sons of Anarchy actually had a better final season than GoT. This may be the most disappointing show in TV history.
Well this guy is pissed.
Hell, If the writers wanted to make Dany evil, they could have had her kill (or attempt to kill) the Stark siblings to keep Jon's lineage a secret, an act which could be seen as both villainous yet understandable from her perspective. By making her a genocidal psychopath, it's literally like watch Jon transform into Ramsay just because Sam died. It is completely out of character.
It was a slow build, I think losing another dragon/child, Missandei being murdered, Vary's betraying her, Jon not returning her love and the heat of the battle/revenge all so close together made her finally flip all the way.
Wasn't done with the best writing, but it also wasn't out of nowhere, we've been seeing her slowly Targ out for seasons now.