Originally posted by ares834
What the **** are you on? People have been calling this shit for years now. There were some issues with how the handled it, particularity with characters (specifically Tyrion and Varys) suddenly worrying about Dany going mad and turning on her. But people have been speculating about it for years.
Speculation is not facts guys. What did she specifically do that made her appeared mad?
Give me actually evidence, not stupid speculations.
This for. Thor since I can’t Can’t quote him.
Dragons are Daenerys tools, just like the sword are Jon’s.
In war, Daenerys ask her enemies to join her, they refuses, she kills them. Easy as that.
Jon’s first job as lord commander was to behead Janos Slint because he refused his command. Yet we don’t call him mad.
Arya baked the Frey’s into a pie and fed them to Walder Frey, she’s not call mad.
So why does everyone have this shield on their face when characters do questionable deeds, but call Dany mad?
Originally posted by cdtm
Probably because in those cases, it's scheming shits killing off scheming shits.I don't think anyone really thought the execution of a traitor crossing a line, as she did. It's when she started killing defeated foes and non combatants, for no real reason, that the line was crossed.
That’s not how the medieval world, and Westeros works. If a defeated foe refuses to bend the knee, they die. Simple.
So I’ll ask again. So why does no one call Tywin mad for all the shits he did?
The old King Of Winters slaughtered the Greystark completely from the world. Those were their kind.
Janos was not fighting Jon when Jon beheaded him, he just refused Jon’s orders. So what’s the difference?
In the books, Jon is a manipulative man. He made Alys Karstark married Magnar of Thenn, one of the free folks as way to gain an army and support.
He also took Gilly’s child as hostage and make her raise Mance child as her own as a way to make Mance follow his orders.
Nothing Daenerys did in the first 7 seasons ever eluded wit her being mad.
Also, people like to use the excuse that she’s the mad King’s daughter. Yet they forget, Aerys became mad after he was tortured for weeks before being rescued, and he’s madness took 20 years. Not just one episode.
Originally posted by SquallXHe wanted to reset the universe to see it prosper. He cannot fix the errror in humanity but he was about balance which is most wise. The guy even resisted the temptation of personal gain from the stones. Simply the best.
Never called myself smart. But I do have common sense and basic understanding of good characterizations.Then I shouldn’t be surprise, your favorite character answer to the Universe was to wipe out all of the population. The idiot magically forgets, the same problem would once more arise in the near future.
Originally posted by SquallXJust because you have not that does not mean others have not. You were not smart enough then to even see the early ambers of rage. Your opinion is just yours. It was fine. They built towards it.
No they haven’t. It’s just people being retards and using season 8 as a way to explain the awfulness and assassination of her character in just one episode.
You're mistaking pragmatic ruthlessness or revenge against specific people for legit mental illness and having a twisted worldview. When's the last time Tywin or Jon ranted and raved about "bringing mercy" to the entire known world after burning the capital city to the ground and having killed tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of civilians?
Anyway, watch this video and educate yourself:
YouTube video
Now while the video above explains very well how Dany was poised to lose her shit from as early as S1, it neglects to mention just how massively inbred this woman is. You think Joffrey was bad cause he was inbred and had assholes for parental figures? Well, Dany is like turbo-Joffrey in that regard.
I can't think of anything super crazy she did in the first season. She burned a witch who tricked her into killing her baby lol. That seems like the worst thing she did.
Well, I guess you could say she grew to love(or at least care for) a rapist. Hilarious and yes indeed a sign of mental illness, but not of the "burn them all!" variety.
Bob Saget: She's your sister, and she'll be there for you no matter what
Jaime: No it's just...I got her pregnant again
Bob Saget: Yeah...well uh, good talk man
Jaime(to joey): Yeah I know man...cut, it, out
Joey: No I was just gonna say quit f*cking your sister.
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Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
You're mistaking pragmatic ruthlessness or revenge against specific people for legit mental illness and having a twisted worldview. When's the last time Tywin or Jon ranted and raved about "bringing mercy" to the entire known world after burning the capital city to the ground and having killed tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of civilians?
Anyway, watch this video and educate yourself:
YouTube videoNow while the video above explains very well how Dany was poised to lose her shit from as early as S1, it neglects to mention just how massively inbred this woman is. You think Joffrey was bad cause he was inbred and had assholes for parental figures? Well, Dany is like turbo-Joffrey in that regard.
The only evil shit Dany did was in season 8. That’s it! Every other times, they were all justified.
Little finger started the war of the 5 kings, so many innocent died, yet he’s not mad, just ruthless and cunning.
Dany turning heel in one episode is stupid, and anyone that defends that have no idea on good characterizations.
You do know in the books Jon hold the wildlings children as hostage right? Is he mad?
Stannis and Melisandrei burns people to the ground, are they consider mad?
Aegon burned a whole castle with everyone inside. Was he mad?
Rhaegar started the rebellion for love, was he mad?
People uses stupid excuses to say Dany is mad because of the shitty writing of season 8, yet turns a blind eye to every other characters fault.
In one act of the books, Dany bathes leper’s with her own hands, even when her advisor tells her no.
Originally posted by KingD19
You're really mad Dany went crazy. And is called mad because she was.
Even the actress seems butthurt and has made comments like "he couldn't talk to me first?!" in reference to Jon lol.
What exactly was he supposed to say to convince her? "Hey, your Hitler speech is raising alarm bells, plus you just dragon nuked a city...maybe change?".