Originally posted by Omega VisionI don't think you understand.
I also take umbrage with the notion that letting the Wildlings through the wall was in any way a bad thing. It's a simple fact that no matter what wildlings may have done in the past, they're not as bad as wights, and by rescuing some of them at Hardhome, Jon basically stole several thousand footsoldiers from the White Walkers and made them his own. I'd argue that's probably the single best move anyone has done on this show in terms of the long-term welfare of the Seven Kingdoms. It ended in his temporary death, sure, but the reasoning was sound, everyone else was just too dumb and set in their ways to see it.On that note, I do wonder when the realization that the White Walkers are real and coming will sink in for the rest of Westeros. Jon might be able to convince the Northerners, but I feel as if the rest of the Seven Kingdoms won't accept it until the wight army is rampaging through the Riverlands.
Jon letting wildlings through the wall being objectively the best move isn't in question.
But it's not something that would endear him to the North at all.
I just realized why Cersei killing everyone had to happen.
She had to do it so that when Daenerys invades she isn't put against anyone who is a "bad guy". Her only enemies as of right now are Cersei and Euron, with the rest of Westeros (except Jon and the North admittedly, but I'm pretty sure Jon is gonna marry Dany and have incest babies). D&D couldn't have their pet character go to war with "good guys", so they needed Cersei to take over to be taken down.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I don't think you understand.Jon letting wildlings through the wall being objectively the best move isn't in question.
But it's not something that would endear him to the North at all.
Originally posted by Mindset
Jon earned his position as Lord Commander and that of Lord of Winterfell.If you disagree, you're a buffoon.
Also doesn't Cersei still have some wildlife left? Figure that would be helpful for something.
Originally posted by NemeBroYeah, it definitely shouldn't be possible. Still, somehow she managed to overpower/outsmart three grown men and take over the kitchen to make them into pies, and she managed to learn/master whatever magic you need to remove and wear peoples faces perfectly, so the show writers aren't above her doing what should be impossible.
But that would be stupid. Gregor doesn't eat or drink, so she can't poison him. He doesn't sleep, so she can't catch him off-guard. And if she tries to slit his throat he'd just rip her head off.
Originally posted by RobtardAs unlikely as it is, I still cant help but hope for it. What is HYPE may never die.
But she could be again as the people could want her to stand trial for mass-murder, which she might acquiesce since she has super-zombie-rape-machine to defend her innocence via combat. It's a long shot; an extremely long one. But not impossible, though I wouldn't bet on it right now.If the Clegane's do end up clashing, it probably won't be in the same context we expected this season.
Originally posted by marwash22
digi, i feel like you come in this thread and vent about things you hear from people who don't post in this thread.does that make sense?
Meh. Some of what I've posted since the finale has gotten responded to negatively in some way, or was in response to something negative (to say nothing of other attempts prior to this week). I like having people to chat with, but yes, I find my enjoyment dimmed - sometimes considerably - by a vocal minority that's overly critical of everything. It's a particular trend in nerd culture that I've seen, not just on KMC, and it's a shame. Though I do realize it's a minority. So if it seems too reactionary and out of place toward some posters here, you're probably right. But it's also not without merit, imo.
Also, minus the haters comment, my last post was more an affirmation of my excitement, not a referendum on criticism. I can see how it could be misconstrued, but I just got through seeing a bunch of cool GoT images and memes and such, which was fun, so the tone wasn't meant to be antagonistic.
When you realize you have to wait a year for the next season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otGQjLzsMGA
Originally posted by DigiIt's definitely not just you. Some people in this thread have complained. I understand criticism, but there some who come off as hateful of certain aspects or characters.
Meh. Some of what I've posted since the finale has gotten responded to negatively in some way, or was in response to something negative (to say nothing of other attempts prior to this week). I like having people to chat with, but yes, I find my enjoyment dimmed - sometimes considerably - by a vocal minority that's overly critical of everything. It's a particular trend in nerd culture that I've seen, not just on KMC, and it's a shame. Though I do realize it's a minority. So if it seems too reactionary and out of place toward some posters here, you're probably right. But it's also not without merit, imo.Also, minus the haters comment, my last post was more an affirmation of my excitement, not a referendum on criticism. I can see how it could be misconstrued, but I just got through seeing a bunch of cool GoT images and memes and such, which was fun, so the tone wasn't meant to be antagonistic.
Originally posted by marwash22
@Aura,That was Little Finger's plan that he served up to Sansa on a silver platter. All she did was go along with his plan.
Sansa's one and only accomplishment in this entire show was helping Theon get on the road to recovery.
And yeah, Jon had help in the Battle of the Bastards, but why are you ignoring everything else he's done up to that point?
Yep. Doesn't change the fact that she summoned them one bit lol.
Alright...what are Jon's accomplishments? He defended the Wall but since the Wildlings got through it doesn't mean anything. He also deserted the Wall. Hardhome happened but all that hinges on people believing in the White Walkers. And even if they did, he's not fighting them any more. He left the Watch and claimed a title. He's not an honorable person and is mostly just an idiot.