Originally posted by Beniboybling
Right, which is no different from instigating. 😬So how does this semantic quibble have anything to do with the point?
It's almost as if they mean basically the same thing or something.
And you can arrange a war similarly to how a mob boss can arrange a hit by just telling his men to rub someone out.
Originally posted by NephthysYeah but not really, to orchestrate generally implies the management of multiple elements. Heck in that very definition I provided it says:
It's almost as if they mean basically the same thing or something.And you can arrange a war similarly to how a mob boss can arrange a hit by just telling his men to rub someone out.
arrange or direct the elements of (a situation)
Which is different from the kind of general instigation we are discussing. Hence I make a distinction. Isn't it a synonymous term? Sure but not in the way your suggesting IMO.
Lol, "generally". You're just quibbling word choice. Theres no rule that it has to be multiple elements. And even then Vitiate manipulated the Mando's and Revan so it counts.
Theres no distinction. Its the same thing. This is a pointless pissing contest over semantics. It has no real baring on the discussion.
Originally posted by NephthysRight, except the definition explictly says "elements", plural.
Lol, "generally". You're just quibbling word choice. Theres no rule that it has to be multiple elements. And even then Vitiate manipulated the Mando's and Revan so it counts.Theres no distinction. Its the same thing. This is a pointless pissing contest over semantics. It has no real baring on the discussion.
But yeah that's what I just said.
Neph may have stumbled onto a fair assessment if he's claiming that Valkorion influenced a greater aggregate number of people, or at least a greater net proportion of the population at the time. This was because he basically grew his own empire and hid from the Republic for a long time and the influence meter tallied up.
He is wrong if he thinks this makes him more impressive than Palpatine. Palpatine made that leap from controlling half to all of the galaxy, which requires a level of accomplishment disproportionate to how much it adds to his influence o meter. He also does this against a significantly more formidable enemy. Still, these are complex distinctions for Neph. Good job. 👆
Originally posted by NephthysPalpatine didn't get punked by the rebels, he got punked by prophecy, if it wasn't for that the Battle of Endor would have been the master stroke it was intended to be, and the Rebel Alliance would have been basically finished.
Sidious getting punked by Rebels is pretty lame, tbh.