1 in 5 girls are raped in college is a MYTH.

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1 in 5 girls are raped in college is a MYTH.

A shock claim by the regressive left that “one in five women on college campuses have been sexually assaulted” has been parroted by politicians — including President Obama — who are hoping to score points defending women in a supposed war against them.

But in reality, this claim is misleading at best.

It has been debunked multiple times, but apparently the paranoia it causes is just too good to let facts get in the way, so I am going to debunk it again.

The statistic comes from a 2007 Campus Sexual Assault study conducted by the National Institute of Justice, a division of the Justice Department. The researchers made clear that the study consisted of students from just two universities, but some politicians ignored that for their talking point, choosing instead to apply the small sample across all U.S. college campuses.
an online survey that took 15 minutes to complete, and the 5,446 undergraduate women who participated were provided a $10 Amazon gift card. Men participated too, but their answers weren’t included in the one-in-five statistic.

If 5,446 sounds like a high number, it’s not — the researchers acknowledged that it was actually a low response rate.

“Another limitation of the CSA study, inherent with Web-based survey, is that the response rates were relatively low,” the researchers said. “Although the response rates were not lower than what most Web-based surveys achieve, they are lower than what we typically achieve using a different mode of data collection (e.g. face-to-face interviewing).”

Nineteen percent of women who responded to the survey said they had experienced some kind of sexual assault, either attempted or completed (12.6 percent reported attempted sexual assaults,13.7 percent reported completed sexual assaults and some women reported both).

But a lot of those responses have to do with how the questions were worded. For example, the CSA study asked women whether they had sexual contact with someone while they were “unable to provide consent or stop what was happening because you were passed out, drugged, drunk, incapacitated or asleep?”


The survey also asked the same question “about events that you think (but are not certain) happened.”

That’s open to a lot of interpretation, as exemplified by a 2010 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which found similar results.

Like the CSA survey, the CDC survey had a low response rate and nonrepresentative sample. As Christina Hoff Sommers of the American Enterprise Institute notes, “No one interviewed was asked if they’d been raped or sexually assaulted.

“Instead of such straightforward questions, the CDC determined whether the responses indicated sexual violation,” Hoff Sommers said.

The CDC survey also asked a question about sexual contact while “drunk, high, drugged or passed out and unable to consent.” The question did not make it clear that it applied only to instances of unwanted sexual contact.
“Now, 61.5 percent of the women the CDC projected as rape victims in 2010 experienced what the CDC called quote ‘alcohol and drug-facilitated penetration,’ ” Hoff Sommers said. “If a woman was unconscious or incapacitated, then every civilized person would call it rape.”

“But what about sex while inebriated?” Hoff Sommers continued. “I mean, few people would say that intoxicated sex alone constitutes rape, indeed a nontrivial percentage of all customary sexual intimacy — including marital sex — probably falls under that definition.”

Glenn Kessler of the Washington Post, who fact-checked the CSA study back in May, pointed out that similar studies from 1997 produced different results based on how the questions were worded.

He cited an NIJ fact sheet which noted that "researchers have been unable to determine the precise incidence of sexual assault on American campuses because the incidence found depends on how the questions are worded and the context of the survey."

And actual reported crimes are much lower. Bureau of Justice Statistics data indicate that in 2012 the rate of rapes and sexual assaults was 1.3 per 1,000 Americans ages 12 and up.


Even though the Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network estimates that 60 percent of all sexual assaults go unreported, the difference between actual reports and the oft-cited study results is even greater, casting even more doubt on their veracity.

Nevertheless, eight senators are using that false statistic to push legislation aimed at combating campus sexual assault, and their bill calls for an annual online survey that would use methodology similar to the other surveys that have already been discredited as inaccurate or misleading. Criminologists James Alan Fox and Richard Moran warned Sunday in USA Today that this new survey would be harmful for all colleges.

“What makes this ill-conceived survey of such concern is that the results are to be publicly released, with rates reported for individual schools. This carries significant implications for admissions and retention rates, as it is based on data of highly questionable validity,” Fox and Moran wrote. “Indeed, flawed data are sometimes worse than no data at all.”

So far, of the eight Senate co-sponsors of the legislation, only Sens. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., and Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, have answered questions from the Washington Examiner about the bill's required annual survey, but their responses did not provide assurances that the surveys would be objective and nonpolitical.

The truth is, we don't know how many women have been sexually assaulted on America's college campuses, but legislation based on overblown statistics won't lead to safer campuses, just more fear.

FRAT (**** reading all that) version: Regressives, as they are want to do, changed the definition of "rape" to include any unwanted sexual advances, any sexual contact where the female had ANY intoxicating substance(she doesn't need to be drunk or tipsy...a sip of beer is enough), any sex without written concent, any sexual contact where the female wasn't fully awake I.e if you ever woke your gf or bf up by touching them sexually...even if they said you could the night before, is rape. Catcalling is rape.

Smh.

IF one in five women were truly raped in college, then the parents who send them there should be charged with a crime. You're almost guaranteeing that your daughter will be raped.

But, facts are facts and the chances of being raped in college is 10x less likely than if they were in the real world. College is the safest place in America for women.

This is college. What do FACTS have to do with anything?

So what you did is copy/paste the story from this link: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/no-1-in-5-women-have-not-been-raped-on-college-campuses/article/2551980, and just added a few choice words of your own to it like "regressive left"

How sophomoric, Lp. Do better.

So if you want to start a thread about a topic to create a open discussion about it has to be a personally written thesis?

Makes sense.

Or you know, leave the source material as is. There's always that, Fly. Think.

So him adding some personal thoughts to the article totally invalidated the point of said article?

You're missing the point still. When you need to alter someone else's work to force or push a narrative, well, I think you can figure it out.

The point I am getting is that its still safer to send your daughters to college then it is send them to Canada. There the Rape Stats are 1 in 3.

And typical LIBERAL Progressive response. Belittle the site and the poster and ignore the message.

Hey. I think I got it figured out.

I honestly think the numbers are skewed due to an inconsistent definition of rape. No it is not clearly stated here but it is in the opinions of the general public.

Get the pitchforks and chase the crazy old man from the forum!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]The point I am getting is that its still safer to send your daughters to college then it is send them to Canada. There the Rape Stats are 1 in 3.

And typical LIBERAL Progressive response. Belittle the site and the poster and ignore the message.

Hey. I think I got it figured out. [/B]

Care to point out where I "belittled" the site and message? I commented on Lp's childish antics; you flipped out. So no, I don't think you do.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]The point I am getting is that its still safer to send your daughters to college then it is send them to Canada. There the Rape Stats are 1 in 3. [/B]

LOL wow, these rape stats are so obviously fake, it's disgusting. One in three, my god that is so painfully false.

Originally posted by Robtard
Care to point out where I "belittled" the site and message? I commented on Lp's childish antics; you flipped out. So no, I don't think you do.

I am just very good at seeing your hidden content with in your posts Robbie. And why do you keep calling Peace Keeper LP? WHAT GAME ARE YOU PLAYING NOW!?

Originally posted by Trocity
LOL wow, these rape stats are so obviously fake, it's disgusting. One in three, my god that is so painfully false.

You never seen the Canadian Rape Whistle Commercial??? And I will point out I did get some info wrong. It isn't 1 in 3. ...its 1 in TWO!!!!!!!!!!!

YouTube video

Originally posted by Robtard
Or you know, leave the source material as is. There's always that, Fly. Think.

And risk not insulting you? Are you Cray Cray?

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Originally posted by Robtard
Care to point out where I "belittled" the site and message? I commented on Lp's childish antics; you flipped out. So no, I don't think you do.

It was childish, but it gave me joy...so I have no regrets.

Would you stop deflecting and just talk topic?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]This is college. What do FACTS have to do with anything? [/B]

True.
I never met less intelligent people than in my years of college.

Originally posted by Peace Keeper
And risk not insulting you? Are you Cray Cray?

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Originally posted by Flyattractor


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This is actually true there is no "rape culture" on college campuses. Just like the wage gap. This is why more and more women aren't comfortable identifying as a feminist. Because an alarming amount of so called feminists do spew stuff like this as if it is fact.

One of their favorite tactics is to call you a "men's right activist" if you dare question them. The current wave of feminism is full of a shockingly large amount of BS. Which is unfortunate because there still are issues out there that need to be discussed.

as a male I know a lot of men are predators. I use the term predator deliberately because even when you hear a group of guys bullshitting and talking about woman they jest about them as though they're a product. More times than not its playful humor just like when you hear how woman talk about men. Woman also talk about men, in many ways, as though they're products. However, where men are more predatory, woman are more conniving. I've heard and seen both sexs take advantage of each other.

I still think the benefit of the doubt should be given the woman but there is certainly a double standard in many states that is upheld in cases like these, whether it's for or against a specific sex. Much like parental rights. Most times, parental rights automatically go towards the woman.

After years of sexism I think this is just a residual of that. Much like the western world trying to catch up with our forefathers we have affirmative action. Is it right? No! But it's just a step that has to be taken until society catches up and finally approved with the laws and rights of the times