Originally posted by The Ellimist
The thing is, they've also asked men if they've ever assaulted anyone, and have gotten numbers that more or less match up with the 1 in 5 stat.
I do t know what that means? 1 in five assault charges that woman make against men are bullshit? So what about the other 2 and 4 ?
notice how the libs don't attack the content but instead attack the messenger? rape is way lied about. there was a county in texas that could either not prove rape took place or outright proved that allegations were a lie....50% of the time. I witnessed many friends in the military and outside world get lied on. it's pretty common.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Rape culture in college is real, and denying it is a huge part of the problem.
There isn't a "rape culture" on college campuses though. This isn't actually a thing. Nobody is saying nobody ever gets raped on campus, but the degree in which some people attempt to portray it as is false, you can find a variety of stuff about it online if you search.
The problem is people acting like there is some rape epidemic. Keep in mind nobody is saying sexual assault should not be taken seriously, but no..there really is no rape culture here.
Rape Culture isn't just about "how many rapes", it's the attitude of blaming or sidelining the victims (usually women) and excusing the behavior of the assailants or would-be assailants (usually male).
The "look at her slutty outfit, she was asking for it" and "it's just guys being guys" type of attitudes.
Originally posted by Robtard
Rape Culture isn't just about "how many rapes", it's the attitude of blaming or sidelining the victims (usually women) and excusing the behavior of the assailants or would-be assailants (usually male).The "look at her slutty outfit, she was asking for it" and "it's just guys being guys" type of attitudes.
But again, what you just described is not the norm either, it's not something happening at an alarming rate. There is not a large amount of people out there condoning rape as "guys being guys" and all that.
So again, there isn't a rape culture. There is no large percentage of people just brushing off rape, that is a myth.
No, it's because there is no rape culture. It is not normal procedure for a girl to go to the authorities and say she was raped and then immediately be called a liar. It just doesn't happen.
We can talk about the consequences of dismissing a rape victims claims for no reason, but there isn't actually a "rape culture".
I am not saying women are always believed, what I am saying is this does not happen in such ASTOUNDING numbers as people try to claim. You see the problem isn't just with people denying it ever happens, but also with people implying it happens way way more often then it truly does. That is my point.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Rape culture in college is real, and denying it is a huge part of the problem.
Originally posted by Robtard
Rape Culture isn't just about "how many rapes", it's the attitude of blaming or sidelining the victims (usually women) and excusing the behavior of the assailants or would-be assailants (usually male).The "look at her slutty outfit, she was asking for it" and "it's just guys being guys" type of attitudes.
Yes. There is a RAPE Culture in College.
The Prob is that its being PREACHED and INFORCED by the ACTUAL COLLEGES!
The Faculties shoving their views and opinions down the throats of the mush brained pot heads that pay them several thousand dollars to be brain raped by these LIBERAL SOCIALIST PROPAGANDISTS!!
I mean I just find it funny people think that there are a majority of rape cases where the authorities or anyone else just goes "oh lol you shouldn't of dressed so slutty!".
If we didn't take rape that seriously then we wouldn't of had innocent men's lives destroyed by false accusations of rape. Why? Why didn't the kunt from the Rolling Stone article just get called a dumb skank and told to go home? Why was her story allowed to be published without even basic fact checking? Where was this "rape culture" then? And don't act like it's an anomaly, this isn't the only time this shit has happened. Strange how this "rape culture" only kicks in when the woman is apparently telling the truth, but when she's lying it's nowhere to be seen.
Just to put this all into perspective. Recently you had two black college students report they were victims of a "racially motivated" attack by a white woman. They called it a hate crime, but then it turned out they were lying and had actually been the ones to attack. Or the story of the jewish college student who said somebody was drawing swastika's outside her college dorm room. Whoops, it turned out it was her doing it.
This is why it's dangerous to automatically believe anything anyone says. Being a victim is seen as some sort of status symbol now.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
We do not need to teach men not to rape, because no one is teaching them to rape.What we need to teach to everyone, regardless of gender, is that every sexual experience you regret is not rape, and strategies for minimizing your risk of sexual assault are not victim blaming.
I've known guys who don't consider having sex with a passed out girl rape as long as you weren't the one who made her pass out (as if opportunism is somehow better than active predation). There are plenty of scumbags on college campuses and society at large, and they absolutely must be told that their behavior isn't acceptable.
As for your second statement, the wording is awful. The way you've worded that statement could absolve rapists as long as they don't regret raping the victim.
As for the victim blaming issue, I'll agree that since there are lots of scummy people, it's probably a good idea to exercise caution, but at the same time we shouldn't ever accept it as a matter of course that because a woman dresses a certain way then it's only natural she might get raped. That's capitulating to the rapists and their skewed values.
But again. there is no real rape culture. Most people know it's NOT okay to bang some chick who is so drunk she is unconscious. There are of course slimeballs that do think it, but it's far from a majority. I have known guys just like the ones you described too and again: they were not the majority though, that is the thing.
If you want to talk about things hardwired into our culture..it's that a majority of men behave that way..that is the narrative some people try to play. That is why there is no actual rape culture.