Brexit, should Britain leave the EU?

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
"Who cares, they breed like rabbits anyway."

This is true of most poor and less educated groups. They all need massive birth control and more internet/tv time.

Many of the middle eastern refugees face the same type of problems that indians faced. To many mouths to feed, not enough food/water, low levels of education and a ridiculous religion.

Now force that on the more civilized countries and one can only laugh when folks step up to defend the massive influx of muslims that disrupt civilized society.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I spent 2 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, where are you drawing this 2 days crap from?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I met a Syrian Refugee in Munich, and he said Islam turns good people bad, I was also downtown Paris on 11/13/16. So as you can see, we have different experiences.

Do you have anything else to say to my post other than correcting me on your experience with Muslims? Having been in the military and served in both Iraq and Afghanistan, was every Muslim civilian that you met aggressive and/or hostile?

Originally posted by It's xyz!
Islam in general, is not good for society, but terrorism is worse. You can't equate these two issues. Pulling out of Iraq for political reasons and funding Syrian Rebels has caused a huge shitty situation and the area needs severe occupation, imo. We agree that the mass immigration crisis caused rape and terrorism, we agree stricter immigration is good. This isn't even a Muslim issue.

British Muslims should and do speak up. The issue is not racist jokes. The issue is the media portraying white people as ignorant thick racists and brown people as violent barbarians. I find leavers thinking Brexit would get rid of Pakistanis and remainers hating lower class white people. But this is just media hype and TV watchers jumping on bandwagons. Both sides were shit, but I'm glad the EU aren't deciding our laws. That was my main issue.

I disagree that the Middle East needs occupation, but I get where you are coming from. I just feel that if we occupied the Middle East again it'd just incite more hatred towards the West. But the West is already hated by Islam extremists, so what can we do? It's a tough call, one I'm not adequately informed to make. And yeah, the media has completely reduced the Brexit debate to black and white, another of my main issues with how most people see and talk about things: it's all one or the other, liberal or conservative, pro-immigration or anti-immigration, etc. etc., and that just isn't how the world works. We need to make sure that we approach each situation from a rational and as non-biased point of view as is possible. I think if more people did that, there'd be less tension and vitriol in our society.

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Tell when have you ever been in danger from islamic extremism or radical islamic terrorism?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33253598

edit: Also, I'd like it if you answered my question directly, I'm genuinely interested to know what your personal experience of what the people of Iraq and Afghanistan were like.

The Iraqis have no clue how to fight, they steal when they can from the American Soldiers, they quit when things go bad, and run away from the battle. They have no discipline. And they are shady as fck.

What about the Afghans? And I was more asking about non-combatant civilians rather than the enemy soldiers. I ask because I know ex-military people who said they generally got on with the Afghani and Iraqi populace.

Where do soldiers come from Scrib?

You know what I mean, TI. I mean civilians who aren't linked to the fighting. Non-combatants. Civilians. I know that line could be blurry over there, I know of all the IEDs and scapegoat civilian stuff, but I also know that you must have met normal people and families, too.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
Stop ad hominem my words. Churchill said they bred like rabbits and didn't understand the consequences. Britain was trying to help them use their resources and they decided to breed and starve instead. Once Britian left the country or region, everything got worse.

Yes, Britain was trying to help them by forcing them to grow cash crops that Britain would profit from, while also refusing to ship them food in the middle of a famine, while Churchill cackles about how it's "culling them merrily." Truly, the British were sent by God to the Indians to help them on the right path.

Originally posted by Scribble
You know what I mean, TI. I mean civilians who aren't linked to the fighting. Non-combatants. Civilians. I know that line could be blurry over there, I know of all the IEDs and scapegoat civilian stuff, but I also know that you must have met normal people and families, too.

Dude, all young males are fighters in Iraq and Afghanistan. What the hell are you talking about here???? Do you know anything about these cultures and their past? Its a waring culture who has been at war their entire existence.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Dude, all young males are fighters in Iraq and Afghanistan. What the hell are you talking about here???? Do you know anything about these cultures and their past? Its a waring culture who has been at war their entire existence.

I did not say all young males were in the IA or AA. Cut it out with this "generalization and blanket statements." Unless you want me to treat you like a shameful SJW. Which I hope you are not.

Right, see, it's best to mention stuff like that, because the way you phrased it seemed like you were implying that. Anyway, what were we talking about? I can't help but feel we've lost track here. I think my point was something about not all Muslims being White-hating jihadis.

Edit: Blanket statements and generalisations aren't SJW territory, since SJWs use them themselves quite often. Blanket statements and generalisations are an enemy of rational thought and sense. I will not censor my own speech in fear of being called an SJW, sorry.

I implied nothing, if you read what I actually say and quit interjecting your thoughts on an opinion I never stated. This has nothing to do with White people, cut your shit out dude or we can get hostile here pretty quick👆

What was your point, then? You haven't stated a point in a long time, just posted statements and questions directed at me.

Ironic you say that, go back and look at all your statements and questions directed at me.

Yeah, and you didn't answer most of them. I answered yours. That's how a debate works. One person makes a point or asks a question, the other responds.

Okay, let's cut this back a bit: I believe that through the generations, Islam can be peacefully integrated with Western culture. I believe this from personal experience. What are people's thoughts on this?

It cannot be successful integrated, the more muslims the more that will be radicalized. Islam teaches that jihad increases your devotion to Allah. Wait and see what happens in 30-40 years in Europe. Its going to be either gone, or taken over by generations of migrants children.

Sharia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

What if we made a halt on immigration – less unintegrated Muslims coming over, etc.? The Muslims we have here at the moment are, by and large, decent, hardworking people. In my 95% Muslim school, only two have been radicalised and gone over to Syria, one Turk and a Kosovan – the Turk was always a dickhead and the Kosovan was, sadly, never that bright a kid, so it makes sense that they'd be the types to be led into a situation like that. The other Muslims were moderates, most of which I reckon won't raise their kids in a particularly traditional Muslim household as they aren't that Muslim themselves. I guess we'll have to wait and see though.

You know 2 that went, its might be around 500,000 people have joined ISIS. They have a population that is around 40-60 thousand, but they keep dying. They have more people joining daily then we can kill. Why should we have to continue this?