Brexit, should Britain leave the EU?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You know 2 that went, its might be around 500,000 people have joined ISIS. They have a population that is around 40-60 thousand, but they keep dying. They have more people joining daily then we can kill. Why should we have to continue this?

Originally posted by Scribble
What do you suggest – kick all of the Muslims out of Britain, even the ones who are third or fourth generation? Even the ones who have no cultural links to their great-grandparents' country of origin other than some incidental cultural remains and skin colour? Good people should not have to suffer for the actions of the evil and misled. If you just mean curbing immigration, I said earlier in this thread that I agree that there needs to be a serious re-evaluation of who is allowed into our country and how many, for many reasons, too.

50% of British muslims think homosexuality should be illegal and a similar portion support strict sharia law(which of course treats females awesomely).

Half of them aren't even "good" people.

I wish the same people who wanted to ban Trump from the country also had just as much of a problem with the sizeable amount of hateful muslims living among them.

Originally posted by Surtur
50% of British muslims think homosexuality should be illegal and a similar portion support strict sharia law(which of course treats females awesomely).

Half of them aren't even "good" people.

I wish the same people who wanted to ban Trump from the country also had just as much of a problem with the sizeable amount of hateful muslims living among them.

Originally posted by Surtur
50% of British muslims think homosexuality should be illegal and a similar portion support strict sharia law(which of course treats females awesomely).

Half of them aren't even "good" people.

I wish the same people who wanted to ban Trump from the country also had just as much of a problem with the sizeable amount of hateful muslims living among them.

It's pretty reliable:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law

Interesting linked article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/as-a-gay-british-muslim-this-is-what-i-think-of-the-survey-finding-over-half-of-british-muslims-want-a6978881.html

When the old people who voted for Brexit to happen die, the referendum will take place again and this time the Brentry will win.

Says who, you😂

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Says who, you😂

To his stupid post. The EU will be gone by the time those "old people die." How utterly distasteful and egregious.

Petrus's? If so, blimey, that was a really quick reply, haha.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Says who, you😂

KEK.

Originally posted by Petrus
KEK.

http://www.politico.eu/article/britains-youth-voted-remain-leave-eu-brexit-referendum-stats/

Originally posted by Scribble
I've seen the number as 75%, not 65%

http://www.politico.eu/article/britains-youth-voted-remain-leave-eu-brexit-referendum-stats/

The point is, the older people are the ones who tipped the scales. Considering that, and the fact that people in Britain googled 'what is the EU' after the vote, if the referendum is held again in some years, I doubt the Brexiters would win again, especially if the decision doesn't bring clear benefits in the next couple of years. That's my opinion, anyways.

Originally posted by Petrus
When the old people who voted for Brexit to happen die, the referendum will take place again and this time the Brentry will win.

Great attitude. "Wait for them to die."

Originally posted by Scribble
It's pretty reliable:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law

Interesting linked article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/as-a-gay-british-muslim-this-is-what-i-think-of-the-survey-finding-over-half-of-british-muslims-want-a6978881.html

Some articles:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/11/europe/britain-muslims-survey/
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/14/what-british-muslims-really-think-about-channel-4s-show
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/channel-4-british-muslims_uk_570badf0e4b0fa55639d65a9
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/04/12/a-poll-claimed-to-reveal-what-british-muslims-really-think-critics-say-it-failed/

Personally I think these beliefs mainly come from the older, more conservative bloc, whereas younger Muslims tend to be far more open and liberally minded. And I say that partly from personal experience. And even if this poll were accurate, that is still a vast amount of people that believe otherwise, altogether Muslim integration with Western ideals is hardly impossible, instead it's happening in a lot of places.

On the other hand yeah, let's just send them all home (and then what? bomb them? build a wall?) Because that's a totally feasible and sensible idea. 🙄

Originally posted by Petrus
The point is, the older people are the ones who tipped the scales. Considering that, and the fact that people in Britain googled 'what is the EU' after the vote, if the referendum is held again in some years, I doubt the Brexiters would win again, especially if the decision doesn't bring clear benefits in the next couple of years. That's my opinion, anyways.

I'm not in favour of a second referendum personally, despite having been firmly Remain. I think this whole scenario has divided my country in a bad way, and a second referendum could only end badly regardless of who would win.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yeah, that poll and the documentary in general has been quite heavily criticised by the Muslim community; mainly because as I gather it was conducted in more densely populated and therefore more conservative Muslim areas, and because a poll of 1,000 can't possibly accurately represent the beliefs of 3 million British Muslims, especially when there are different sects within the religion.

Some articles:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/11/europe/britain-muslims-survey/
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/14/what-british-muslims-really-think-about-channel-4s-show
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/channel-4-british-muslims_uk_570badf0e4b0fa55639d65a9
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/04/12/a-poll-claimed-to-reveal-what-british-muslims-really-think-critics-say-it-failed/

Personally I think these beliefs mainly come from the older, more conservative bloc, whereas younger Muslims tend to be far more open and liberally minded. And I say that partly from personal experience. And even if this poll were accurate, that is still a vast amount of people that believe otherwise, altogether Muslim integration with Western ideals is hardly impossible, instead it's happening in a lot of places.

On the other hand yeah, let's just send them all home (and then what? bomb them? build a wall?) Because that's a totally feasible and sensible idea. 🙄

And more besides. 👆

Originally posted by Scribble
It was a very close vote, and there is a chance that if there was a second referendum, that the amount of Remain votes would go up, but I don't know if it'd be enough to actually beat Leave.

Well, that's what I mean. With it being so close and taking into account who voted Leave, etc. the statistics point out that if a second referendum was held, it would probably be in favor of Remain. Of course, we have no way to be sure.

I'm not in favour of a second referendum personally, despite having been firmly Remain. I think this whole scenario has divided my country in a bad way, and a second referendum could only end badly regardless of who would win.

I understand, it's a sensible opinion. However, do you think a second referendum would be so bad in some years if the decision to leave proves to be ineffective or not as good as people originally thought it would be?

Originally posted by Petrus
Well, that's what I mean. With it being so close and taking into account who voted Leave, etc. the statistics point out that if a second referendum was held, it would probably be in favor of Remain. Of course, we have no way to be sure.

I understand, it's a sensible opinion. However, do you think a second referendum would be so bad in some years if the decision to leave proves to be ineffective or not as good as people originally thought it would be?