Thor vs WBHulk with a twist.

Started by Stoic10 pages

^ Uhm yeah I get it, you and a bunch of other people did not enjoy the fact that WB Hulk was far above anything that he has been before, and did not need Celestial tech to ramp up to that height. Now since you disliked it so much, you want to deny the power levels that were stated on panel, and ignorantly say that even a base level Thor could take WB Hulk, which is based on nothing more than personal preference.

A fictional means of measuring his power in comparison to Hercules was made. You didn't like it, but fail to acknowledge that all of these characters are nothing more than fiction. The feat stands, and Thor in comparison would be found lacking in comparison to the measurement made in those comics.

Lol at this thread.

Thor is as strong as the story needs him to be.

How strong is Thor here that he was able to overpower countless copies of himself? Wait what did Ego say? Billions of antibodies? Thor must be nearly as strong as at least a billion Thors! Hooray for comics! You guys are silly.
http://i.imgur.com/CojHhZP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8uV7c1R.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JzuP7ah.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7DPpUUi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZMyJbpe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8MqXe2Q.jpg

facepalm

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Sometimes what is written is embellished and cannot be taken at face value
That comment was about 133.5 Salts

(1 Salt = the total volume of the order of salt Mcdonalds orders for the month for a single location)

Originally posted by psycho gundam
That comment was about 133.5 Salts

(1 Salt = the total volume of the order of salt Mcdonalds orders for the month for a single location)

Is salts = to mystical units?

Salt is mystifying, yes

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol at this thread.

Thor is as strong as the story needs him to be.

How strong is Thor here that he was able to overpower countless copies of himself? Wait what did Ego say? Billions of antibodies? Thor must be nearly as strong as at least a billion Thors! Hooray for comics! You guys are silly.
http://i.imgur.com/CojHhZP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8uV7c1R.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JzuP7ah.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7DPpUUi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZMyJbpe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8MqXe2Q.jpg

😆 Exactly the point I was making. Stay far away from that fuzzy comic math.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Salt is mystifying, yes

Cool 👆

That explains a lot

So, we're agreed that WBH annihilates Thor? Even with all his amps.

This was a ridiculous thread.

Originally posted by janus77
So, we're agreed that WBH annihilates Thor? Even with all his amps.

This was a ridiculous thread.

No, we don't. The problem is some of you are dazzled by what you saw of WBH (rightfully so); however, you haven't stopped for a second to imagine what an amped, unleashed Thor would be like.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Thor is as strong as the story needs him to be.

😂

No. That'd be Superman.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
😂

No. That'd be Superman.


Him too.
👆

Thor can't increase his strength. That has been made clear by the same writer and Thor's creator Stan Lee.

Who had Thor getting his shit kicked in by savage hulk.

In his own comic.

Forget about WBH.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Him too.
👆

Nah, Thor is Marvel's wonder woman.

When the chips are down, it's Superman and Hulk who are called to smash the shit out of the big bad.

Remember Onslaught saga?

Originally posted by Stoic
^ Uhm yeah I get it, you and a bunch of other people did not enjoy the fact that WB Hulk was far above anything that he has been before, and did not need Celestial tech to ramp up to that height. Now since you disliked it so much, you want to deny the power levels that were stated on panel, and ignorantly say that even a base level Thor could take WB Hulk, which is based on nothing more than personal preference.

A fictional means of measuring his power in comparison to Hercules was made. You didn't like it, but fail to acknowledge that all of these characters are nothing more than fiction. The feat stands, and Thor in comparison would be found lacking in comparison to the measurement made in those comics.

you misunderstood the point I was making.

I will explain...

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor can't increase his strength. That has been made clear by the same writer and Thor's creator Stan Lee.

Who had Thor getting his shit kicked in by savage hulk.

In his own comic.

Forget about WBH.


Sure he can.

Plus he's always holding back vs mortals(well documented).

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nah, Thor is Marvel's wonder woman.

When the chips are down, it's Superman and Hulk who are called to smash the shit out of the big bad.

Remember Onslaught saga?


facepalm
Lol no. Marvel is not relegated to having one "big gun". That is where you obviously fail to understand Marvel's formula. In DC, Superman more often than not fits that bill. While Marvel on the other hand does things a little differently.

If only Hulk was the "big gun", then things like Warlock claiming Thor(Masterson) was their "highest card" vs Thanos during IG or Surfer being contacted by Shield to take out God Cable would never have been written.

Read some comics please.

During IG, Strange so said that Hulk was the secret weapon at killing Thanos with the IG when him, Wolverine and Hulk was on the roof.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Sure he can.

No, he can't. There is not a single proof of Thor having a dynamic strength or the fact that he can increase his strength at will.

Plus he's always holding back vs mortals(well documented).

Holding back=/=Increasing strength.

facepalm
Lol no. Marvel is not relegated to having one "big gun". That is where you obviously fail to understand Marvel's formula. In DC, Superman more often than not fits that bill. While Marvel on the other hand does things a little differently.

Name one time Thor has looked better than Hulk in terms of Strength in big stories.

Even back in Secret Wars I, even Banner hulk was the one who lifted the mountain while Thor's mightiest blows were like taps to the same.

It's the nature of the characters. Thor isn't about strength. Hence the wonder woman comparison.

If only Hulk was the "big gun", then things like Warlock claiming Thor(Masterson) was their "highest card" vs Thanos during IG or Surfer being contacted by Shield to take out God Cable would never have been written.

Hulk was chosen to kill Thanos by the same Warlock and Starlin actively hated merged Hulk.

Thanos himself said under Starlin that he avoided fighting Hulk. Never such a claim about Thor.

Hulk never appeared in that Cable story.

Read some comics please.


Haha, you seem to live in an alternate reality where Thor is competitive with hulk in strength.

And with Superman.

😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, he can't. There is not a single proof of Thor having a dynamic strength or the fact that he can increase his strength at will.

Holding back=/=Increasing strength.


Now it's about increasing strength "at will".
Anyways, it's silly to claim that a character who has an integral part of his mythos of increasing his strength through berserker rage, does not have dynamic strength. This line of thinking is not only illogical, but completely devoid of character knowledge. Instead of making ridiculous claims, just ask nicely if you were unaware. There is however the possibility of you ignoring what you probably know already.

For starters here he tries to artificially induce this berserker rage through chants instead of the usual rage taking over.
http://imgur.com/VLePsDY
Unfortunate it doesn't work and attributes the failure due to having restrained himself among mortals for far too long. This alone should let you know that his strength is far from static and can be elevated through the level of rage he is in.

From an Avengers guidebook.
"His berserker rages increase his strength as he gets more and more angry".
http://imgur.com/CCDR25j

When Warlock faces off against an insane and enraged Thor, he recalls his near death past encounter with Thor. An encounter where Thor was in the grip of a version of warrior madness.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsSilverSurferAdamWarlock01Infi.jpg.html

Then as the battle rages on, he realizes that it is futile to physically overpower Thor and that he is even more dangerous now than his last encounter with him in a past enraged state.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsSilverSurferAdamWarlock03.jpg.html

Physically overpowers Durok the Demolisher before his killshot who in the past had physically dominated him and the Surfer in the same comic by reaching deep for a strength... never fully realized before!
http://i.imgur.com/GDyb8Ng.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gdgbKt6.jpg

While fighting Orlog, (Odin in disguise who had given himself 4x Thor's strength to teach him a lesson) Thor finds his own strength and ultimately wins.
http://i.imgur.com/3BgFAIM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fuEXT2V.jpg

Not to mention he has been in an hour long strength lock with Savage Hulk who we know only gets stronger and stronger.

Hell he's matched Kurse who supposed to be 4x stronger than him in a strength lock.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Name one time Thor has looked better than Hulk in terms of Strength in big stories.

Even back in Secret Wars I, even Banner hulk was the one who lifted the mountain while Thor's mightiest blows were like taps to the same.

It's the nature of the characters. Thor isn't about strength. Hence the wonder woman comparison.


Goalposts much?

I replied to your ridiculous original claim.

"Nah, Thor is Marvel's wonder woman.

When the chips are down, it's Superman and Hulk who are called to smash the shit out of the big bad.

Remember Onslaught saga?"

Now you're adding Thor looking better than Hulk in strength when it comes to big stories?

No one is claiming that Thor is stronger than Hulk. That is Hulk's calling card. However defeating "the big bad" doesn't always require to be the strongest one there is. Only an idiot would think that. It's nearly as bad as Thor isn't about strength. Though he has an incredibly varied powerset, he surely is about strength. In comics he is synonymous with strength, hammer, and lightning.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hulk was chosen to kill Thanos by the same Warlock and Starlin actively hated merged Hulk.

Thanos himself said under Starlin that he avoided fighting Hulk. Never such a claim about Thor.

Hulk never appeared in that Cable story.


Good for him. Not surprised since he's a comic book powerhouse.

Like I said, he is a comic book powerhouse. Under Starlin it was stated that "he was one of the most physically powerful beings in the universe". High high praise from same writer.
Hell in the recent Thanos Infinity series of graphic novels under Starlin, Thor was the last hero standing with Thanos. Every other powerhouse available had already perished from Annihilus's attack. I'm talking about powerhouses that included Surfer, Hyperion, Gladiator, Captain Universe, Black Bolt, Firelord, Terrax, Loki, and Doom.

😬

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, you seem to live in an alternate reality where Thor is competitive with hulk in strength.

And with Superman.

😂


Again no one is saying he is stronger than these two. But the idea that he is not competitive in strength just smells of butthurt. We all know the real reason why you get such a titie attack anytime Thor's strength and or speed is involved. Because you think that without those two as a major advantage for you know who, there really isn't anything much left. Your insecurity knows no bounds.

Sad part is I know you will do your usual ignoring of proof.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Now it's about increasing strength "at will".
Anyways, it's silly to claim that a character who has an integral part of his mythos of increasing his strength through berserker rage, does not have dynamic strength. This line of thinking is not only illogical, but completely devoid of character knowledge. Instead of making ridiculous claims, just ask nicely if you were unaware. There is however the possibility of you ignoring what you probably know already.

For starters here he tries to artificially induce this berserker rage through chants instead of the usual rage taking over.
http://imgur.com/VLePsDY
Unfortunate it doesn't work and attributes the failure due to having restrained himself among mortals for far too long. This alone should let you know that his strength is far from static and can be elevated through the level of rage he is in.

From an Avengers guidebook.
"His berserker rages increase his strength as he gets more and more angry".
http://imgur.com/CCDR25j

When Warlock faces off against an insane and enraged Thor, he recalls his near death encounter with Thor in the past. An encounter where Thor was in the grip of a version of warrior madness.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsSilverSurferAdamWarlock01Infi.jpg.html

Then as the battle rages on, he realizes that it is futile to physically overpower Thor and that he is even more dangerous now than his last encounter with him in a past enraged state.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsSilverSurferAdamWarlock03.jpg.html

Physically overpowers Durok the Demolisher before his killshot who in the past had physically dominated him and the Surfer in the same comic by reaching deep for a strength... never fully realized before!
http://i.imgur.com/GDyb8Ng.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gdgbKt6.jpg

While fighting Orlog, (Odin in disguise who had given himself 4x Thor's strength to teach him a lesson) Thor finds his own strength and ultimately wins.
http://i.imgur.com/3BgFAIM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fuEXT2V.jpg

Not to mention he has been in an hour long strength lock with Savage Hulk who we know only gets stronger and stronger.

Hell he's matched Kurse who supposed to be 4x stronger than him in a strength lock.

Goalposts much?

I replied to your ridiculous original claim.

"Nah, Thor is Marvel's wonder woman.

When the chips are down, it's Superman and Hulk who are called to smash the shit out of the big bad.

Remember Onslaught saga?"

Now you're adding Thor looking better than Hulk in strength when it comes to big stories?

No one is claiming that Thor is stronger than Hulk. That is Hulk's calling card. However defeating "the big bad" doesn't always require to be the strongest one there is. Only an idiot would think that. It's nearly as bad as Thor isn't about strength. Though he has an incredibly varied powerset, he surely is about strength. In comics he is synonymous with strength, hammer, and lightning.

Good for him. Not surprised since he's a comic book powerhouse.

Like I said, he is a comic book powerhouse. Under Starlin it was stated that "he was one of the most physically powerful beings in the universe". High high praise from same writer.
Hell in the recent Thanos Infinity series of graphic novels under Starlin, Thor was the last hero standing with Thanos. Every other powerhouse available had already perished from Annihilus's attack. I'm talking about powerhouses that included Surfer, Hyperion, Gladiator, Captain Universe, Black Bolt, Firelord, Terrax, Loki, and Doom.

😬

Again no one is saying he is stronger than these two. But the idea that he is not competitive in strength just smells of butthurt. We all know the real reason why you get such a titie attack anytime Thor's strength and or speed is involved. Because you think that without those two as a major advantage for you know who, there really isn't anything much left. Your insecurity knows no bounds.

Sad part is I know you will do your usual ignoring of proof.

Good post.

👆