Thor vs WBHulk with a twist.

It is simply foolish to go that route when he has already showed this ability many times. Why did Superman amp himself vs HP DD? Shouldn't he have just made himself stronger? Lol... Get me?

Because Doomsday himself has dynamic strength. Explicitly stated in the comic.

http://s764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/1992%20-%20Death%20of%20Superman/?action=view&current=ag_doomsday3_AoSM497_11.jpg

Unlike Thor. And Superman beat him to death in moments after getting ignored for hours and unable to hurt him at all.

That's called dynamic strength.

Ah ah ah... You moved the goalposts my friend. First you claimed that his dynamic strength hasn't really been established that far back. Then you came in using this author that author nonsense after you were shown proof that Hulk's dynamic strength was established years before the scan (Defenders 10 '73).

I stated clearly what I wanted to say. If you are too dumb to understand that, be my guest.

Admit it you got caught. Hell in Hulk's first fight with Thor '63, he even tells Thor that he "grows stronger by the minute! Stronger! Stronger! Stronger! Strong enough to crush even you!". Funny thing Hulk later gets overpowered in a strength duel shortly after.

Funny thing, getting lifted doesn't makes you overpowered.

But I would like to see where Hulk is getting stronger in Defenders 10. Or any other Defenders issue before that.

I'm not calling you stubborn. I quoted your stupid reasoning for Thor matching Kurse in a strength lock. Foof. As if strength was not involved. Smh..

When it was stated quite simply that it was stubbornness that kept him in the game, it doesn't. Thor had no hopes of matching Kurse in strength.

Useless.
Useless.
Useless.

Concession accepted.

Glad you agree that you don't need to be called a god of strength to be really strong.

Never claimed that.

Concession accepted. [/B]

Cry me a river again. But I see we are going for a 40 pages ride again.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
It was clarification because you seem to get lost easily.

Ok. Gladz is as strong as Hulk in your opinion? You're entitled to your own.

According to Starlin, yes.

How is me believing Thor is stronger than Gladz backpedaling?

Thor is stronger than Gladiator?

😂

That's why Gladiator KTFO him in two punches. Or beat down Masterson like a whore.

I can agree with that though he did survive one which was very close in proximity to him and Thanos.

Noone else had been attacked like that. One blast and he was killed. Just like everyone else.

There's also the point that some heroes weren't even showed with getting blasted by Annihilus's weapon, but died before Thanos and Thor. It was a good showing nonetheless.

Its a good showing for Thanos only. Anything other is just reaching.

Err... No. You made yourself available yet couldn't back your claims when push came to shove.

I'd already did.

You couldn't post a single h2h win for Thor against a herald in 40 pages. That was some bitching.

Lol... You ignored proof after proof like you're doing now. And haven't you realized it yet? I prolong these posts because it shows how many times you use smokescreens, double standards, hypocritical statements, backpedaling, moving goalposts, and outright lies.

No, you prolong it because you have no hope of proving anything you say and just want the last word.

Like everytime.

Too bad.

It's quite amusing.[/uote]

Yes, your bitching and whining is quite amusing.

[quote]Is it on the level of these two, probably not. Arguable that it in some ways it is, but I'd lean towards these two. But to suggest that he doesn't when baked into the mythos he has a thing called warrior madness which increases his strength substantially, bios that corroborate this, a whole host of showings where he simply digs deep, and even ones where he's subconsciously holding back is quite frankly dumb.

Adrenaline boosts. Explicitly stated. Several times.

Thor doesn't has dynamic strength. Never did.

Deal with it.

Bump.

No

Yes.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS.................

Well, if you want my opinion... WBH would be still too strong for him.

WWH is a freakin Hair-Puller!!!

Bump.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, you tell that everytime when nobody else interprets the scan as you.

Laughable really.

Then how does an adrenaline boost made his stronger than Warrior Madness?

It was right there on panel. Warlock realized he was even more powerful than his last encounter with Thor in a berserker mindset.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, "mother lifts the car" moment for Thor. He didn't overpower him though, he matched him in strength in an armlock and killed him by an energy blast.

Yes, the strength to continue the fight. Not becoming stronger.

Lulzworthy tactic though. Anytime a hero gets a second wind, they are just becoming stronger.

Right,,,,,,,,,

Yeah. His opponent was specifically stated to have 4x his strength. It was specifically stated that he was "outmatched". Dynamic strength rising to the occasion bruh.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, an adrenaline boost which was pretty static made his stronger than average. How do you reconcile that?

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yeah, no. Thor specifically says that his powers were totally restored by Leader and he had the power of a god.

Does it anywhere says that Leader restored his powers without "getting stronger" powers?

In fact right after his bout with Hulk while still in the Arctic, he met with the Avengers and went on a short mission with them. This was even before your scan.
The Avengers acknowledged that he's still not the same even after having his so called powers restored.
http://i.imgur.com/MLXNYjW.jpg

Put this issue to rest. You know you are wrong here.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Never used a bio to prove something out of the comic.

Of course there is.

Bill was weakened since Thor beat him severely in Thor 461 and then again in Thor 468.

He was beat up, but it doesn't mean he's weakened. The scan you left out seemed to show that he was restored.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, under Starlin. Later under Marz.

It was clearly stated that his power was pretty much at the same level since the madness started by an adrenaline boost. Its stated several times actually.

So no, its simply a different view by different writers.

Thor fought and beat BRB in exactly the same way in both Thor 461 and 468 under Marz if you want to compare.

Not sure where you are getting clearly stated.

It was evident going by his overall successive performances that he was only getting more powerful the more he let his rage take over.

Originally posted by abhilegend

No, it shows that an adrenaline boost can give him strength beyond normal which was sustained by his madness.

It happens even in real life and more so for heroes.
Glad you agree he has dynamic strength.

😂

Adrenaline boost again.

Originally posted by abhilegend

The statement is clearly about who can increase his strength and its only Hulk.

Not Thor.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Only to a certain level by adrenaline boost. It doesn't keeps increasing.

Like pretty much every hero with the adrenaline boost. Its not a dynamic strength which can keep increasing more and more.

No, it has never been shown in a comic. He gets an adrenaline boost and that's it.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, you are reaching h1 level now. It was stated as a never before and never after scenario and left Thor so weakened that he could barely stand.

Its nt him getting stronger by his "dynamic strength", its him killing Durok with all he had.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yeah, right.

He certainly was.

No, but if 50 years of continuity says he can't do it, then he can't do it.

Post a single instance of him getting stronger and it being mentioned and not just adrenaline boosts like here.

http://s764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/1995%20-%20Doomsday%20Annual%20Year%20One/?action=view&current=DA1_35.jpg
http://s764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/1995%20-%20Doomsday%20Annual%20Year%20One/?action=view&current=DA1_36.jpg
http://s764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/1995%20-%20Doomsday%20Annual%20Year%20One/?action=view&current=DA1_37.jpg

There is no such comment on Thor's strength.

The simple fact that writers even gave wonky numbers like increasing his strength tenfold in a berserker mindset tells you how dynamic his strength can be. The utter stupidity of claiming Thor is unable to amplify his strength is a blatant dismissal of this fact and the various on panel examples of said fact.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because Doomsday himself has dynamic strength. Explicitly stated in the comic.

http://s764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/1992%20-%20Death%20of%20Superman/?action=view&current=ag_doomsday3_AoSM497_11.jpg

Unlike Thor. And Superman beat him to death in moments after getting ignored for hours and unable to hurt him at all.

That's called dynamic strength.

Originally posted by abhilegend

I stated clearly what I wanted to say. If you are too dumb to understand that, be my guest.

Funny thing, getting lifted doesn't makes you overpowered.

But I would like to see where Hulk is getting stronger in Defenders 10. Or any other Defenders issue before that.

Uh no. It is pretty clear he overpowered Hulk who in the same fight stated he was getting only stronger.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk04.jpg.html
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk05.jpg.html

Defenders 10? Gtfo of here. You were already proven wrong here.

Originally posted by abhilegend

When it was stated quite simply that it was stubbornness that kept him in the game, it doesn't. Thor had no hopes of matching Kurse in strength.

Concession accepted.

Never claimed that.

Cry me a river again. But I see we are going for a 40 pages ride again.

Looks like we are. I don't mind as lo g as you get more exposed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
According to Starlin, yes.

Thor is stronger than Gladiator?

😂

That's why Gladiator KTFO him in two punches. Or beat down Masterson like a whore.

Noone else had been attacked like that. One blast and he was killed. Just like everyone else.

Its a good showing for Thanos only. Anything other is just reaching.

I'd already did.

You couldn't post a single h2h win for Thor against a herald in 40 pages. That was some bitching.

No, you prolong it because you have no hope of proving anything you say and just want the last word.

Like everytime.

Too bad.

Adrenaline boosts. Explicitly stated. Several times.

Thor doesn't has dynamic strength. Never did.

Deal with it.

Masterson Thor was dominated? Not sure about that.

You ran Abhi. And proof was posted regarding Thor's h2h prowess. Only you choose to ignore them.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yet Thor beat the shiet out of future Gladz when he stopped holding back.

Yes, by a hammer and energy attacks. Not through sheer strength. Gladiator did it with sheer strength.

In less attacks than Thor too.

Masterson Thor was dominated? Not sure about that.

Masterson was on the ground and had to literally sucker Gladiator with living lightning to stun Gladiator who was gloating above him.

You ran Abhi. And proof was posted regarding Thor's h2h prowess. Only you choose to ignore them.

😂

Not a single win for Thor against a legit herald for 40 pages.

facepalm

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
facepalm

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
No. It's the usual case with you. The fact that he was even attempting to induce a berserker rage only reinforces the idea that he can amplify his strength significantly. It's pretty cut and dry. You not understanding or choosing to ignore that fact is what is laughable.

Yeah, its case with al you thorbags. Nobody else understands it, only you people do.

Get the **** out.

It was right there on panel. Warlock realized he was even more powerful than his last encounter with Thor in a berserker mindset.

So Thor was what 12 times stronger? He was in Warrior Madness at that time.

Yes, all his "Warrior Madness" couldn't measure up to an adrenaline boost. How "dynamic" of him.

That wasn't just an "arm lock". Durok's arms were forced into crossed position and was eventually held in a bear hug. Lol...

Yeah, no. Thor held him in his place and blasted him. That left him so weak he could barely stand.

Yeah. His opponent was specifically stated to have 4x his strength. It was specifically stated that he was "outmatched". Dynamic strength rising to the occasion bruh.

Haha, no. Thor didn't become 4 times stronger. That's the entire point of that story.

That's just idiocy.

Again you are missing the point. This "adrenaline boost" makes him significantly more powerful.

And it was stationary power level. He didn't gradually become stronger until he had PG.

That's the entire point of that story.

For Christ's sakes Ahbi, your own scan says "artificial restoration". That is not the same as having his powers restored properly.

Why? The power was inside him. All he had to do was chant something and get 10 times stronger.

Oh wait....

Him thinking his all powers have returned doesn't mean they're as potent as before.

Proof of that? I think Thor knows his powers better than you.

Hell in the same issue his so called "powers" shorted out while fighting some thugs in a park. Are you kidding me? It was issues later that his true strength was restored.

Yes, the restoration was temporary. It wasn't a faulty restoration though. He was as powerful as ever.

In fact right after his bout with Hulk while still in the Arctic, he met with the Avengers and went on a short mission with them. This was even before your scan.
The Avengers acknowledged that he's still not the same even after having his so called powers restored.
http://i.imgur.com/MLXNYjW.jpg

[/quote]

Hahaha, in the same issue Vision flat out says that Leader brought Thor to all his godly glory.

I'll take that over Black Widow saying he isn't a thunder god anymore anyday of the week.

Put this issue to rest. You know you are wrong here.

Bwahaha. Oh the delusion here.

Lol.. You just used a bio in another thread literally lest than a day ago.

Not a bio you idiot.

He was beat up, but it doesn't mean he's weakened. The scan you left out seemed to show that he was restored.

No, Sif flat out says to preserve whatever strength he has. Flat out saying he was weakened.

Glad we agree.

Again delusional.

Not sure where you are getting clearly stated.

It was evident going by his overall successive performances that he was only getting more powerful the more he let his rage take over.

Flat out denied by the writers. His strength was static since he got mad.

Glad you concede that he has dynamic strength. Lol..
And btw, he subconsciously held his strength in those scans.

Again delusional. Normal humans have dynamic strength too then.

Don't be idiotic.

No. It clearly states Hulk's dynamic strength. It has nothing to do with Thor.

No, it clearly stated that out of two only Hulk can increase his strength. Later Hulk notes that Thor is weaker and tired while he is stronger than ever. That's called dynamic strength.

Lol which is it? Can he or can he not increase his strength?

Not at will no.

I never claimed he can increase it without limit. That's a no limits fallacy.

If its dynamic, there is no limit to it. There is no two way.

Already addressed what happened with Durok here.

Yeah, I read your excuse. Laughing still.

Don't really care if Supes was holding back. He may have.

So you just quoted it out of context? Here, Superman killed Doomsday who was explicitly getting stronger with the time.

Dynamic strength.

The simple fact that writers even gave wonky numbers like increasing his strength tenfold in a berserker mindset tells you how dynamic his strength can be.

Which never happened. So pretty static.

The utter stupidity of claiming Thor is unable to amplify his strength is a blatant dismissal of this fact and the various on panel examples of said fact.

No, its truth. You better believe it.

You are not understanding. For one I said HP DD and not DoS. Like Thor, Superman used different means to amp himself when Doomsday reached a point in which he was just too powerful for him.

Superman wasn't amped in HP. He used weapons given by mother box. And Doomsday himself has dynamic strength.

He was explicitly equal to HP in OWAW and would've killed him too if he had liked.

Dynamic strength.

That's just the way the writer wrote the story. Just like Thor using the BoS when he was in a reduced state vs Kurse and against Arishem/Exitar. It doesn't mean he lost the ability to amplify his strength especially when in a berserker mindset.

Since he has never done so, he can't lose it, can he? The best he can hope is Odin meddling his mind and him getting an adrenaline boost because of it.

No. You got caught moving goalposts. This fake tirade is clearly a deflection.

Hahaha, oh the delusion.

Uh no. It is pretty clear he overpowered Hulk who in the same fight stated he was getting only stronger.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk04.jpg.html
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk05.jpg.html

Haha, what? He lifted Hulk off the ground. That's just as preposterous as thinking Hulk overpowered Thor when he had him go to his knees. Stan Lee flat out stated in Avengers 5 that only mjolnir could equal Hulk's punch.

Hulk is the strongest one there is. Get over it.

Defenders 10? Gtfo of here. You were already proven wrong here.

Only in your dreams.

Lol... Strength not stubbornness governs muscles. Well at least is more of a factor than the latter.

That's what was explicitly mentioned as why Thor could stalemate Kurse. Not dynamic strength.

Looks like we are. I don't mind as lo g as you get more exposed.

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, its case with al you thorbags. Nobody else understands it, only you people do.

Get the **** out.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So Thor was what 12 times stronger? He was in Warrior Madness at that time.

Yes, all his "Warrior Madness" couldn't measure up to an adrenaline boost. How "dynamic" of him.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yeah, no. Thor held him in his place and blasted him. That left him so weak he could barely stand.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, no. Thor didn't become 4 times stronger. That's the entire point of that story.

That's just idiocy.

Originally posted by abhilegend

And it was stationary power level. He didn't gradually become stronger until he had PG.

That's the entire point of that story.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, its case with al you thorbags. Nobody else understands it, only you people do.

Get the **** out.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So Thor was what 12 times stronger? He was in Warrior Madness at that time.

Yes, all his "Warrior Madness" couldn't measure up to an adrenaline boost. How "dynamic" of him.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yeah, no. Thor held him in his place and blasted him. That left him so weak he could barely stand.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, no. Thor didn't become 4 times stronger. That's the entire point of that story.

That's just idiocy.

Originally posted by abhilegend

And it was stationary power level. He didn't gradually become stronger until he had PG.

That's the entire point of that story.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Why? The power was inside him. All he had to do was chant something and get 10 times stronger.

Oh wait....

Proof of that? I think Thor knows his powers better than you.

Yes, the restoration was temporary. It wasn't a faulty restoration though. He was as powerful as ever.

Hahaha, in the same issue Vision flat out says that Leader brought Thor to all his godly glory.

I'll take that over Black Widow saying he isn't a thunder god anymore anyday of the week.

Bwahaha. Oh the delusion here.

Again he simply is not as powerful with Leader's "artificial" power up compared to having his power properly restored after the issue with Yggdrasil. It's as if you are saying Leader has access to immeasurable Agardian magic. Sometimes common sense works.
😬

How should they know whether or not he's back to his normal self? Oh wait he's not because my stance is backed up not only by Black Widow's statement, but corroborated by his reaction(nearly fainting) after using his power. A scene that happened prior to him stating he obtained his powers back while flying over nyc. This is too easy...

Originally posted by abhilegend

Not a bio you idiot.

Originally posted by abhilegend

No, Sif flat out says to preserve whatever strength he has. Flat out saying he was weakened.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Again delusional.

Flat out denied by the writers. His strength was static since he got mad.

Again delusional. Normal humans have dynamic strength too then.

Don't be idiotic.

Not to the same degree. At these levels, it is clear and much more evident. And yes, he was subconsciously holding back his strength vs Grogg. To deny that is to completely ignore what'a on panel.

Originally posted by abhilegend

No, it clearly stated that out of two only Hulk can increase his strength. Later Hulk notes that Thor is weaker and tired while he is stronger than ever. That's called dynamic strength.

Not at will no.

If its dynamic, there is no limit to it. There is no two way.

Already showed you multiple scans of him doing so. You do know the more you ignore proof the more you look like an idiot right?

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yeah, I read your excuse. Laughing still.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So you just quoted it out of context? Here, Superman killed Doomsday who was explicitly getting stronger with the time.

Dynamic strength.

It's good of you to show DD's dynamic strength. 👆

Originally posted by abhilegend

Which never happened. So pretty static.

No, its truth. You better believe it.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Superman wasn't amped in HP. He used weapons given by mother box. And Doomsday himself has dynamic strength.

He was explicitly equal to HP in OWAW and would've killed him too if he had liked.

Dynamic strength.

Actually no real proof of dynamic strength for Clark during HP since he was utterly dominated there. OWAW is a better source.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Since he has never done so, he can't lose it, can he? The best he can hope is Odin meddling his mind and him getting an adrenaline boost because of it.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hahaha, oh the delusion.

Haha, what? He lifted Hulk off the ground. That's just as preposterous as thinking Hulk overpowered Thor when he had him go to his knees. Stan Lee flat out stated in Avengers 5 that only mjolnir could equal Hulk's punch.

Hulk is the strongest one there is. Get over it.

Hulk was forcing his arms down. Hulk had the advantage with gravity on his side. Thor was pushing up and ultimately lifted Hulk off the ground. Hell Hulk's dumbfounded reaction speaks volumes. Seriously? Come the phukk on...

Originally posted by abhilegend

Only in your dreams.

That's what was explicitly mentioned as why Thor could stalemate Kurse. Not dynamic strength.

Concession accepted.

Have some common sense.

Come. Let's expose you some more.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Come. Let's expose you some more.

You perv! 😂

😍

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nah, Thor is Marvel's wonder woman.

When the chips are down, it's Superman and Hulk who are called to smash the shit out of the big bad.

Remember Onslaught saga?

LOL, you are delusional, Hulk? He's the go to guy? The only thing CLOSE to a go to guy Marvel has is Thor. Who ****ed up Sentry?

Superman, yeah, always, that's how you got turned into a disciple.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, he can't. There is not a single proof of Thor having a dynamic strength or the fact that he can increase his strength at will.

Holding back=/=Increasing strength.

Name one time Thor has looked better than Hulk in terms of Strength in big stories.

Even back in Secret Wars I, even Banner hulk was the one who lifted the mountain while Thor's mightiest blows were like taps to the same.

It's the nature of the characters. Thor isn't about strength. Hence the wonder woman comparison.

Hulk was chosen to kill Thanos by the same Warlock and Starlin actively hated merged Hulk.

Thanos himself said under Starlin that he avoided fighting Hulk. Never such a claim about Thor.

Hulk never appeared in that Cable story.

Haha, you seem to live in an alternate reality where Thor is competitive with hulk in strength.

And with Superman.

😂

When did Superman start increasing his strength "at will?" 😆