Thor vs WBHulk with a twist.

Started by Blue Area Vet10 pages
Originally posted by carver9
What hero doesn't hold back though?

The heroes that aren't that powerful.

Stop celeying so much, Celey.

Berserker W broke free from Ursus' hold, ffs.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Stop celeying so much, Celey.

Berserker W broke free from Ursus' hold, ffs.

He also took on all of his villains simultaneously when he went all out. Defeated both Omega Red and Lady DeathstrIke at the same time, held up an elevator full of people. Spiderman has (do I even need to go there)...

Originally posted by carver9
He also took on all of his villains simultaneously when he went all out.

He still hasn't gone berserk then, if you mean Wolverine #304.

Originally posted by carver9
Defeated both Omega Red and Lady DeathstrIke at the same time,

Don't recall that. He fought them when he was powerless and had Hudson's Vindicator armor, yes, embarrassed them quite a bit, but lost in the end.

Originally posted by carver9
held up an elevator full of people.

Yup, he did. Again, didn't need to go berserk.

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Anyway, the dynamic strength topic really needs to end. Whether or not celey/abhi is right/wrong. Enough is enough, guys.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He still hasn't gone berserk then, if you mean Wolverine #304.

Don't recall that. He fought them when he was powerless and had Hudson's Vindicator armor, yes, embarrassed them quite a bit, but lost in the end.

Yup, he did. Again, didn't need to go berserk.

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Anyway, the dynamic strength topic really needs to end. Whether or not celey/abhi is right/wrong. Enough is enough, guys.

Naah, he didn't go berserker but it's still can be considered a dynamic showing (that every character have who's consistently shows up in comics).

I could've sworn he beat both when he jumped out of the window running from Sabertooth (and got his leg clawed up). This was during the time they chased him. Maybe I'm misremembering.

There's thousands of characters that should be diagnosed with dynamic strength if we took fights into perspective. Sabertooth is stronger than Wolverine. Hell, he holds every single physical advantage you can have between the two and I can name some showings where Wolverine has physically taken him out. This goes for a number of characters. Hell, Spiderman is known for this. Off showings doesn't mean someone have dynamic strength. That category is handed to a couple of people and the peeps named here does not fit that category. Sorry friends.

I guess... but here, specifically dynamic strength was being discussed. He had no str feats there aside from tossing several henchmen in the air like ragdolls, but that's something he's been able to do since his first actual on-going.

Same arc, same writer (Tieri), but different issues. The Sabretooth thing happens a bit later, I believe. He was only fighting Yuriko and Omega... and they've beaten him in the end. They've worked for it, of course.

It's quite clear abhi and celery want their heroes to be as awesome as the Hulk, which they'll never be. Hence the whole dynamic str discussion.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

It's quite clear abhi and celery want their heroes to be as awesome as the Hulk, which they'll never be. Hence the whole dynamic str discussion.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17

Is it on the level of these two (Hulk/Supes), probably not. Arguable that in some ways it is, but I'd lean towards these two. But to suggest that he doesn't when baked into the mythos he has a thing called warrior madness which increases his strength substantially, bios that corroborate this, a whole host of showings where he simply digs deep, and even ones where he's subconsciously holding back is quite frankly dumb.

Dammit, Rage Junior. I'll get you next time.

*disappears in a puff of smoke*

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Except Wolverine does not have in his mythos the ability to increase strength his might on rage or mindset like Thor does. There are literally multiple official bios that state this corroborated by on panel showings. What more do you want?
http://i.imgur.com/YSc3o8c.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/CCDR25j.jpg

Of course he does. Adrenaline surge.

One bio also said Thor is only 95 tons at strength.

http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11125/111252882/5188082-0585261526-tumbl.jpg

Must be true too.

Bios are shit. Let it go.

And there are no on panel showings where Thor keeps getting stronger while being angry. That's Hulk.

Lol.. You just admitted dynamic strength. Lol... No he didn't. In that particular instance, he could not artificially induce a berserker rage. Doesn't mean it's destroyed forever.

Post more "lol"s. Its hard to take you seriously without those.

Yes, it is. If a character can't do something specifically for that character and hasn't shown that ability again, its not there.

Waste of time. And yes. That was literally a double post you weirdo. You're arguing on a posting error.

Cry more.

Smh... And yet in your own scan from Thor #497 which happened chronologically after the vision and widow scans, he says the same thing about getting his powers back("notice artificial restoration" lolzzz).
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27626460/Thor497-01.jpg.html
Now how can you sit there and claim he is back to full power when he literally fainted just by using his powers with Widow saying "he's not what he once was"? Even worse is during Thor #497, he experienced his power shorting out against a bunch of no name thugs.

Like I said "restoration" was faulty. Doesn't mean he was less powerful. That's just your bleeding ego talking.

I said bouts of weakness.
He fainted just by using his powers for crying out loud! Wtf is wrong with you?

Yes, the restoration wasn't complete and that's why he fainted. How is that equated to "he was less powerful than before."? Your reaching knows no bounds.

Concession accepted on being a hypocrite. 👆
Congratulations. Like others here, you yourself use bios.

Haha, oh you delusional fool.

Keep trying to get the last word though. I'll see you how long you can try to lie.

Are you retarded? You originally claimed that Bill was weakened when he put Thor down during B&T(SS86), but cited scans that happened issues later(SS87 - 4 issues after the fact) in that crossover story arc as proof.

Yes, he was weakened just after the beating and issues later he was still weakened. How is that so hard for you to understand? Did Bill became magically weaker between issues?

Now you are throwing this artificial tirade to mask you original false claim by using a mixture of backpedaling, playing dumb, and stating facts that was never your position to begin with.

Hahaha, oh the delusions. Keep bitching. Its really amusing.

Riiight.../quote]

Right. Glad you agreed.

[quote]Read it again.
MBox started healing his pierced right shoulder pretty immediately during the fight as was described by Clark. He also remarked after the fight at how MBox had healed his broken left arm.

Yes, he was getting healed but the poison was still affecting him.

Was talking about Clark not Thor.

Superman has been stated to have dynamic strength dozens of time. Its not even a contest TBH. Even Supergirl does.

Supergirl was literally killing herself by holding back.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203902/r6fSzMM.jpg.html
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Superman literally became human when someone convinced him that he was powerless.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203966/MKQ1Ln8.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203967/wTt6VdP.jpg.html
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Like I said, scans speak for themselves. It's overpowering. The idiocy is staggering here.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk04.jpg.html
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk05.jpg.html

Hahaha, this is like the tenth time you were just spouting nonsense in this thread.

lol1

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course he does. Adrenaline surge.

One bio also said Thor is only 95 tons at strength.

http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11125/111252882/5188082-0585261526-tumbl.jpg

Must be true too.

Bios are shit. Let it go.

And there are no on panel showings where Thor keeps getting stronger while being angry. That's Hulk. [


Lol no.

Bios coupled with on panel proof. Just because you get so butthurt about it doesn't make it go away. Unfortunately to your dismay, it's here to stay unless Marvel completely overhauls his history.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Post more "lol"s. Its hard to take you seriously without those.

Yes, it is. If a character can't do something specifically for that character and hasn't shown that ability again, its not there.


And yet he's done so on panel backed by multiple bios.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Cry more.

Like I said "restoration" was faulty. Doesn't mean he was less powerful. That's just your bleeding ego talking.

Yes, the restoration wasn't complete and that's why he fainted. How is that equated to "he was less powerful than before."? Your reaching knows no bounds. [/b][/quote]
Now the restoration is "faulty"? The restoration was "not complete"? And yet you say he was at "full power"? Are you listening to yourself?
abhidur

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, oh you delusional fool.

Keep trying to get the last word though. I'll see you how long you can try to lie.


You were though. You were caught being a hypocrite.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, he was weakened just after the beating and issues later he was still weakened. How is that so hard for you to understand? Did Bill became magically weaker between issues?

Hahaha, oh the delusions. Keep bitching. Its really amusing.


Abhi. You claimed he was weakened when he put Thor down and tried to pass off scans that happened after as the fight in question as proof. You are a liar and got caught.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, he was getting healed but the poison was still affecting him.

Lol... Now all of a sudden you agree that MBox was healing him. You should have conceded this point a long time ago if you were just going to agree with me anyway.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Superman has been stated to have dynamic strength dozens of time. Its not even a contest TBH. Even Supergirl does.

Supergirl was literally killing herself by holding back.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203902/r6fSzMM.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203903/BsuI6RG.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203904/RLVhxut.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203905/An5EqDw.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203906/89yNArC.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203907/9nbuyjh.jpg.html

Superman literally became human when someone convinced him that he was powerless.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203966/MKQ1Ln8.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203967/wTt6VdP.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203968/321QZGM.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203969/aYOvjh9.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203970/qLYmeLi.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203971/nte428S.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203972/k9g57uX.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203973/OMjhlBD.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25203974/qlr27lk.jpg.html


Good for both of them.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hahaha, this is like the tenth time you were just spouting nonsense in this thread.

Concession accepted.


Yes. Until you get it in your thick skull.. I don't mind since it will only make you look more foolish than you already are.

Thor has dynamic strength. It can change often based on his mindset. And sometimes it is significant. Hell the very definition of dynamic is on my side as it pertains to this topic.

ADJECTIVE

1.(of a process or system) characterized by constant change, activity, or progress:

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol no.

Bios coupled with on panel proof. Just because you get so butthurt about it doesn't make it go away. Unfortunately to your dismay, it's here to stay unless Marvel completely overhauls his history.

Hahaha, that's the most pathetic attempt to have the last word I've ever seen.

Nope, Thor never has such an ability. Let it go. Seriously.

And yet he's done so on panel backed by multiple bios.

Nope, never done so. Adrenaline surges, each and every time.


Now the restoration is "faulty"? The restoration was "not complete"? And yet you say he was at "full power"? Are you listening to yourself?
abhidur

Yes, the restoration wasn't complete as it didn't store him to full power for indefinite time.

It didn't make him less powerful. Learn the difference.

You were though. You were caught being a hypocrite.

Bwahaha. Oh the delusions.

Abhi. You claimed he was weakened when he put Thor down and tried to pass off scans that happened after as the fight in question as proof. You are a liar and got caught.

Yes, he was weakened. What lies? Who caught me? This is some serious denial going on here.

Lol... Now all of a sudden you agree that MBox was healing him. You should have conceded this point a long time ago if you were just going to agree with me anyway.

Wut? It was treating his wounds but there was no power up from mother box.

Good for both of them.

Bad for Thor though. He has never shown such ability to suppress his strength.

Yes. Until you get it in your thick skull.. I don't mind since it will only make you look more foolish than you already are.

Hahaha, this is just sheer lunacy on your part. Keep coming though, its always a riot with your excuses.

Thor has dynamic strength. It can change often based on his mindset. And sometimes it is significant. Hell the very definition of dynamic is on my side as it pertains to this topic.

ADJECTIVE

1.(of a process or system) characterized by constant change, activity, or progress:

No, he does not has dynamic strength. The sooner you get it, the better.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha, that's the most pathetic attempt to have the last word I've ever seen.

Nope, Thor never has such an ability. Let it go. Seriously.

Nope, never done so. Adrenaline surges, each and every time.


👆
Lol... I don't even mind that you call it adrenaline surge. It's just funny because technically you are agreeing he has dynamic strength because we've seen how significantly more powerful he becomes on average when he's enraged.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, the restoration wasn't complete as it didn't store him to full power for indefinite time.

It didn't make him less powerful. Learn the difference.


lol1
Like I said... You already conceded with stating that the restoration was "faulty" and "not complete". Adding in other key facts like it was through the machinations of Leader that he received some power and that he only returned to full power many issues later in Thor 500 when true Asgardian magica are involved.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Bwahaha. Oh the delusions.

Yes, he was weakened. What lies? Who caught me? This is some serious denial going on here.


Delusions like the fact that you've used bios and now claim you don't? El oh el on you.

Lol. Show me where he was weakened. And don't show me scans that happened issues later after the fact as proof...

Originally posted by abhilegend

Wut? It was treating his wounds but there was no power up from mother box.

Sigh.. The fact that it can heal you on the fly and give you weapons you've never had is a power up in most sane worlds Abhi.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Bad for Thor though. He has never shown such ability to suppress his strength.

Lol... Already addressed this. He has subconsciously suppressed his strength here. He even states that the first hammer throw was done with "full force".

Hahaha, this is just sheer lunacy on your part. Keep coming though, its always a riot with your excuses.

No, he does not has dynamic strength. The sooner you get it, the better. [/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha, that's the most pathetic attempt to have the last word I've ever seen.

Nope, Thor never has such an ability. Let it go. Seriously.

Nope, never done so. Adrenaline surges, each and every time.


👆
Lol... I don't even mind that you call it adrenaline surge. It's just funny because technically you are agreeing he has dynamic strength because we've seen how significantly more powerful he becomes on average when he's enraged.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, the restoration wasn't complete as it didn't store him to full power for indefinite time.

It didn't make him less powerful. Learn the difference.


lol1
Like I said... You already conceded with stating that the restoration was "faulty" and "not complete". Adding in other key facts like it was through the machinations of Leader that he received some power and that he only returned to full power many issues later in Thor 500 when true Asgardian magics were involved makes it that much clearer.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Bwahaha. Oh the delusions.

Yes, he was weakened. What lies? Who caught me? This is some serious denial going on here.


Delusions like the fact that you've used bios and now claim you don't? El oh el on you.

Lol. Show me where he was weakened. And don't show me scans that happened issues later after the fact as proof...

Originally posted by abhilegend

Wut? It was treating his wounds but there was no power up from mother box.

Sigh.. The fact that it can improve your healing ability and heal you on the fly and give you weapons you've never had is a power up in most sane worlds Abhi.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Bad for Thor though. He has never shown such ability to suppress his strength.

Lol... Already addressed this. He has subconsciously suppressed his strength here. He even states that the first hammer throw was done with "full force".
Originally posted by celeyhyga17

Lol...
Oh you mean like how he was subconsciously holding back against Grogg here? He was holding back and didn't even realize it.
http://i.imgur.com/z0v6UTL.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/DEhjYuq.jpg
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Dynamic power? 😂

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hahaha, this is just sheer lunacy on your part. Keep coming though, its always a riot with your excuses.

No, he does not has dynamic strength. The sooner you get it, the better.


How bout we put it in a bz? You've posted long winded replies for pages so it shouldn't really be any different. I say he has dynamic strength. You say he doesn't. Let's see what others think.

😐

Get a room already!

Shut it, SmellyHymen17.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shut it, SmellyHymen17.

"SmellyHymen17"... shocklaugh

So, an adrenaline rush that increases strength is not dynamic strength but trying harder is?

Cele called him out. I'm betting he backs down.

Battlefield removal.