The novelizations of the movies were based off the script, I assume they're perfectly valid to use.
Also, that just makes Han a skilled pilot, and they still failed to outrun the Empire on at least two occasions. Besides, post-prime Han can fly at lightspeed, so why can't prime Han while piloting the Millennium Falcon in the OT?
Originally posted by MythLordThat is like saying the movies are based off the Harry Potter books. They are different.
The novelizations of the movies were based off the script, I assume they're perfectly valid to use.
Also, that just makes Han a skilled pilot, and they still failed to outrun the Empire on at least two occasions. Besides, post-prime Han can fly at lightspeed, so why can't prime Han while piloting the Millennium Falcon in the OT?
He can fly at light speed he can't attack at light speed hence my point. He barely even maneuvered right out of light speed. He sure can in his prime not that it would matter against Trek. He can't make Trek look foolish like the empire.
Originally posted by ZenwolfYes, they were avoiding critical damage despite being outnumbered and without their expert pilot flying it. Embarrassing for the empire.
They weren't fending off the Empire when Han was fixing the ship in ESB. :/ They were just flying. It's also called Deflector shields, which you know...protect the ship.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That is like saying the movies are based off the Harry Potter books. They are different.He can fly at light speed he can't attack at light speed hence my point. He barely even maneuvered right out of light speed. He sure can in his prime not that it would matter against Trek. He can't make Trek look foolish like the empire.
He didn't make the Empire look foolish, though. Also, why can't he fly at such speeds during battle? Because his old grandpa self had to grunt a bit while navigating his ship at that speed? LOL.
Also, Trek isn't even coming close to a respectable fraction of light, unlike Star Wars.
Originally posted by MythLordWhen did he ever fly at light speed and tag opposing ships ? This isn't what you wish to happen it's what has happened and is likely to occur.
He didn't make the Empire look foolish, though. Also, why can't he fly at such speeds during battle? Because his old grandpa self had to grunt a bit while navigating his ship at that speed? LOL.
Also, Trek isn't even coming close to a respectable fraction of light, unlike Star Wars.
They can transport. 🙂
Tech is superior and they progress a lot faster than Star Wars.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Films only quit fanboying it up. We see him fix his ship while they fend off the empire. He got away and made them look awful. He can fix his shitty ship and still evade them. He also made Vader look bad in new hope.Oh please the enterprise alone would annihilate the MFalcon. It isn't close. We don't need the Narada or the Vengeance to take this pile of crap out.
Han in his prime wasn't taking ships out at light speed he was flying away and traveling speed. I'm right you're wrong. Fanboyism makes you say silly things.
Wow.
Didn't know that the Millenium Falcon was all that Star Wars had.
And Starkiller Base would just solo the entirety of Star Trek with a single shot. So I wonder why you even attempt a discussion here. Laughable, pathetic, a typical Quanchi.
Originally posted by NaiSo Star Trek is just fine blasts. Ignorance at its finest. You're the same pansy who would not back the empire against three Nu Trek films, coward.
Wow.
Didn't know that the Millenium Falcon was all that Star Wars had.
And Starkiller Base would just solo the entirety of Star Trek with a single shot. So I wonder why you even attempt a discussion here. Laughable, pathetic, a typical Quanchi.
Red matter takes this out quite easily. 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
That is like saying the movies are based off the Harry Potter books. They are different.He can fly at light speed he can't attack at light speed hence my point. He barely even maneuvered right out of light speed. He sure can in his prime not that it would matter against Trek. He can't make Trek look foolish like the empire.
Then why does at the end of the credits does it say based of the novel by JK Rowling. The movies are based off the books.
Nai has been run off.
Originally posted by quanchi112Not fine blasts but five planets. That's all the starkiller base took out until it recharged.
So Star Trek is just fine blasts. Ignorance at its finest. You're the same pansy who would not back the empire against three Nu Trek films, coward.Red matter takes this out quite easily. 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
So Star Trek is just fine blasts. Ignorance at its finest. You're the same pansy who would not back the empire against three Nu Trek films, coward.
Translation: "I have no argument. I will attempt some ad hominem and then follow up with a nonsense argument." Incoming:
Red matter takes this out quite easily. 😂
How?
Red matter couldn't even be used to stop a supernova that they knew would happen in time. How are they going to stop a beam from Starkiller Base that is fired at them? They wouldn't even have the time to react on that. Planets gone, fleets gone, end of story.
Originally posted by NaiYou claimed five blasts will destroy the Trek side. It appears as if you are completely ignorant as to the enormity of the Trek side.
Translation: "I have no argument. I will attempt some ad hominem and then follow up with a nonsense argument." Incoming:How?
Red matter couldn't even be used to stop a supernova that they knew would happen in time. How are they going to stop a beam from Starkiller Base that is fired at them? They wouldn't even have the time to react on that. Planets gone, fleets gone, end of story.
Red matter did stop a super nova. It just didn't stop it in time before it destroyed the planet. Your ignorance is astounding. Planets, fleets, Borg, Romulans, Klingons, Earth, Vulcan, various ships numbering and yet you claim this one attack solos them ? 😂
You're clueless.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You claimed five blasts will destroy the Trek side. It appears as if you are completely ignorant as to the enormity of the Trek side.
What "enormity"? Compared to a galaxy spanning empire Star Trek is a joke in terms of numbers. Especially when limited to the movies.
Red matter did stop a super nova. It just didn't stop it in time before it destroyed the planet.
Yes. Despite the fact that they knew in advance that it would happen - unlike an attack by Starkiller Base.
Your ignorance is astounding. Planets, fleets, Borg, Romulans, Klingons, Earth, Vulcan, various ships numbering and yet you claim this one attack solos them ? 😂
Single volley from Starkiller Base destroyed five planets and everything in orbit (given that the entire Republic Fleet was wiped out by the attack). Star Trek is virtually clueless about stuff happening in the next star system. They would be picked apart by Starkiller Base, before even realizing what happened. And if you would move all of Movie Trek in one place, a volley from Starkiller Base would probably destroy it all.
You're clueless.
Uh-hu. Last time I checked, the question was, whose tech was superior: What does Star Trek have to offer exactly to counter a planet-size superweapon that drains stars and has impenetrable shields?
Originally posted by NaiEven when going by the movies they have far more than five targets. That's all the starkiller can take out. So your ignorance is pretty telling. I guess Star Trek to you is five helpless targets.
What "enormity"? Compared to a galaxy spanning empire Star Trek is a joke in terms of numbers. Especially when limited to the movies.Yes. Despite the fact that they knew in advance that it would happen - unlike an attack by Starkiller Base.
Single volley from Starkiller Base destroyed five planets and everything in orbit (given that the entire Republic Fleet was wiped out by the attack). Star Trek is virtually clueless about stuff happening in the next star system. They would be picked apart by Starkiller Base, before even realizing what happened. And if you would move all of Movie Trek in one place, a volley from Starkiller Base would probably destroy it all.
Uh-hu. Last time I checked, the question was, whose tech was superior: What does Star Trek have to offer exactly to counter a planet-size superweapon that drains stars and has impenetrable shields?
So it did stop it. Spock not reacting in time has nothing to do with whether the red matter can stop the red nova. It did. Spock wasn't there in time but the red matter can stop the super nova and definitely stop the starkiller base.
No, they aren't. The tech in Trek is light years ahead of the same old stuff from Star Wars. Lasers and more powerful lasers. Lol.
So now we move all the planets, space bases, ships, Borg cube, etc. into one place to starkiller can attack ?
Trek can use time travel, adapt to weapons, assimilate, transport weapons and people, and use red matter that is capable of taking out a supernova yet you brag about planets.
😂
Five shots is what you initially claimed then said hey lets transport all out Trek into one location for the starkiller base. 😂
Impenetrable. Lol. No limits fallacy. Starkiller got blown up pretty easily.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Even when going by the movies they have far more than five targets. That's all the starkiller can take out. So your ignorance is pretty telling. I guess Star Trek to you is five helpless targets.
Educate yourself:
Two Death Stars, Starkiller Base.
So it did stop it. Spock not reacting in time has nothing to do with whether the red matter can stop the red nova. It did. Spock wasn't there in time but the red matter can stop the super nova and definitely stop the starkiller base.
Reaction time is a crucial element, if you want to use red matter to stop beams from Starkiller Base, that move so fast, that they cross half the Galaxy (Unknown Regions to Core Worlds) in minutes. They wouldn't even have time to prepare the stuff before Starkiller Base hits them from the other side of the Galaxy.
No, they aren't. The tech in Trek is light years ahead of the same old stuff from Star Wars. Lasers and more powerful lasers. Lol.
Educate yourself. Starkiller Base does, next to entire stars, harness Dark Matter from space surrounding it. The Death Star draws energy from hypermatter, apparently through a dimensional gate in the reactor.
So now we move all the planets, space bases, ships, Borg cube, etc. into one place to starkiller can attack ?
Apparently we do. How else would a single ship with Red Matter protect the entirety of Star Trek from Starkiller Base? 😂
Trek can use time travel, adapt to weapons, assimilate, transport weapons and people, and use red matter that is capable of taking out a supernova yet you brag about planets.
😂
Yeah. They can "use" time-travel, with the exception of every application in which this would make sense, with unknown results, since that changes the Future. Great. They can adapt to weapons? The Borg can - and not to all weapons, but just phasers, which are pretty boring compared to SW weaponary. And yeah. There is red matter, crammed into a little containment cylinder on a single ship, that a single starfighter from the SW universe could easily take out. Wow. That's sooooo impressive. 🙄
Five shots is what you initially claimed then said hey lets transport all out Trek into one location for the starkiller base. 😂
See above. And after witnessing the destructive power of Starkiller Base or a Death Star, Star Trek - with exception of the Borg - would just give up.
Impenetrable. Lol. No limits fallacy. Starkiller got blown up pretty easily.
They are powered by Dark Matter. So there is a limit: About 27 percent of the energy that exists in the observeable universe.
And yes. It got blown up, because somebody breached those shields on lightspeed. I would love to know, who in the Star Trek universe could possible reproduce that feat, provided that, flying with lightspeed, the distance between the shielding and the planets surfaces (roughly 500 kilometers), would give you a time frame of 0.001 seconds for getting out of FTL speed and stop your vehicle, before it hits ground after passing through the shields. For comparison: That's like attempting to land a jetfighter on a 10 cm long landing strip. Good luck with that.
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Could the shields of Starkiller base stop Genesis?
If they would launch it through the shields at FTL speed, probably not. But then: Who knows if they can and what would happen? And they wouldn't even get the chance to do so, since Starkiller Base is still a moveable object capable of travelling faster than any ST ship. 😉