Exar Kun vs. Darth Nihilus

No giga-drain

Kun gets splattered.

Not sure actually. I've had them roughly equal for a while now. Obviously Kun is more skilled and more physically powerful but I think Nihilus edges him out in the Force or they're equals.

Well, without the drain Nihilus's best (and utterly ridiculous) feat happens on a nexus. mmm

Originally posted by Syndicate
and more physically powerful

Kun blasts him, GG spirits.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Well, without the drain Nihilus's best (and utterly ridiculous) feat happens on a nexus. mmm

EDIT: Eh, nevermind.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Given the magnitude of the feat, the factor of the unstable gravity wells, and the fact the man (he was still a physical being at this time. Hell, he wasn't even a Sith yet) who did it wasn't even remotely comparable to the dark side monstrosity that is Darth Nihilus in the actual game, it shouldn't be discounted.

It's still murky and unclear to what extent Nihilus could use this power in a combative situation without a nexus. We don't know how long it took him, how much it strained him, whether he had a peak-performance moment, how powerful Malachor's nexus is, and how this matches against whatever power growth Nihilus may have experienced.

Plus, the fact he was able to sever Kreia's connection to the Force with a gesture,

Kreia's best feat is doing a similar thing to three Jedi Masters, whose best feats are being considered vaguely powerful or something.

telepathically enslave Visas Marr (Exar Kun had to resort to using Sith artifacts and holocrons to do stunts like that),

Feats for Visas?

utterly dominate the Exile and company with telekinesis without truly realizing they were even there, and unleash a casual Force blast that collapsed star destroyer supports, instantly incapacitated Darth Sion, and disintegrated Sith troopers, makes me believe Kun really stands no chance here.

Disintegrating troopers isn't as impressive as some of the feats spirit Exar pulls off, and I'd need some details on these "star destroyer supports". Sion and the Exile are substantially weaker than Kun by any reasonable metric.

EDIT: I never considered the Sith gauntlets. Yeah, those would be really effective against Darth Nihilus. I'm more comparing their respective power here than counting stuff like that though. If Exar Kun uses that, Darth Nihilus would probably be destroyed though.

I'm sticking with Exar for now due to his superior close quarters abilities, his performance against Luke, and the Revan > Nihilus thing that I'm tentatively accepting.

Exar Kun > pre-5000 BBY DLOTS > Darth Nihilus

both are actually pretty shit and nowhere nearly as good as people make them out to be 🙂

Well, Nihilus is probably below Vader. Not sure about Exar.

same

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I doubt it.

From what we've seen anyways and given the Exile can outduel him ( granted he was in a weakened state ) and her own physical feats it just makes sense to me.

Because Darth Sion and Meetra Surik are even remotely comparable to Exar Kun in the slightest.

Kun has blocked a Sever Force attack from the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy and then one-shotted him in return.

If we're talking about amped feats, massively pre-prime Exar Kun disintegrated Massassi, killed a Sith Wyrm, blasted massive chunks out of the Temple of Fire, one of the many temples that withstood turbolaser bombardment twice, and one-shotted the Spirit of Freedon Nadd, who one-shotted Vodo, the second most powerful Jedi in the galaxy, from across the galaxy; and he empowered King Ommin and Queen Amanoa.

This was an Exar Kun channeling the rage from within his own heart, his blasts multiplied with each 'pulse of anger' and he was brand new to being genuinely dark side. He was stated to become more powerful as he began to study Sith sorcery, became even more powerful when he retrieved the Dark Holocron and was stated to have gained 'extreme', 'enormous' powers when he created the Dark Reaper and sent Ulic with it to Raxus Prime.

So Exar Kun in his prime is certainly making up for any kind of amplification to his rage that he may have had on Yavin IV.

Originally posted by Syndicate
given the Exile can outduel him ( granted he was in a weakened state )

How is that any different from wanking Nihilus's nexus feats? lmao

I am not claiming a difference, I'm stating that Kun in his far greater prime should be capable of replicating what he did as a new Dark Sider and thus he's disintegrating the far more physically dominating Massassi by the hundreds if not thousands with ease, whilst blasting massive holes in the Sith Wyrm and taking chunks out of an enormous temple.

I was talking to Ant actually.

My bad.

Stands before:

Stands after:

Exar Kun's power grows:

Exar Kun’s power grew. He ordered the Massassi to build immense temples and to seek out Naga Sadow’s lost battleship.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic - Galactic History 55 - Ascension of Exar Kun

Exar Kun leaves, fights Ulic, then goes to kill Odan-Urr and takes the Dark Holocron:

Odan-Urr goes to the Force and the darkest power in the galaxy walks away with something that will make him even stronger.
- Tales of the Jedi

Then Exar Kun creates the Golden Globe and Dark Reaper, now an extremely powerful figure:

An extremely powerful figure now, Kun dabbled in dark side alchemy, creating freakish two-headed avians and hulking terentateks that thirsted after Force-rich blood. He invented a glowing golden sphere that trapped the children of the Massassi and allowed him to feed off their energies.
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Exar Kun had also constructed a Sith superweapon, the Dark Reaper, that was capable of drawing in the life energies of thousands of combatants. Ulic unleashed the Dark Reaper against hundreds of Republic troops on the outpost of Raxus Prime.
- The New Essential Chronology

Hail King Kun TBH.