Originally posted by Lestov16
I'm sure he'll come up as you rant about how evil Muslims are.And yeah as stated, I never made any such attack, unless you consider Kim Davis a white male capitalist. You're just illiterate and or insecure.
Shut up you idiot. Kim Davis analogy failed😂
Who did she kill you reject?
Originally posted by Lestov16
LOL at all of you. Deriding an Islamic terrorist for his homophobic attack and ignoring the Christian homophobia that exists everyday. What's that the Bible said about looking at the speck in your neighbors eye? Terrorist attacks like this will always occur because people like you refuse to change yourselves but try to enforce change in others.Don't know what's sadder, the terrorist attack itself or the fact that nothing was learned from it.I'll leave you guys in peace so you can discuss which missile you think Trump should launch at those dirty Muslims and their families. You accuse me of playing politics but clearly you see this as an excuse to engineer the Islamophobic hate train. As stated, you don't really care about the attack or it's causes, just about how much you can mold it to fit your Islamophobic narrative.
And SMFH at you for politicizing this tragedy. That each religion is different as is the individual who practices each religion are different in how they express their beliefs. For not understanding that people are actually persons that can think for themselves and not religion-machines. That the vast majority of us can actually practice tolerance within ourselves and still practice our beliefs in good conscience. For not understanding that evil ppl use whatever means to justify evil and that only the extreme kind of ideologies and differences along with a complex mix of factors is what causes this hate and what causes these tragedies. That even then, it is our ideologies and differences and complexity is what actually makes us human in the first place and will be persistent til we can find a way to abandon our own humanity.
Don't know what's sadder, your bigotry itself or your hypocrisy that you are blind to.
Originally posted by Robtard
Since you're asking. The Westboro Baptist Church routinely states gays should be killed as written in the Bible, then there's that pastor who Ted Cruz supported who said similar. Pretty sure there's more who believe homosexuls should be put to death as per Leviticus 20:13.
That's true, now answer this. How many times have they come out and other Christians have crucified them for there bigotry and stupidity?
Where as a Muslims commit an act of terrorists, and when we talk about it, other Muslims finds way to turn it into us saying where being racist toward them.
How many Muslims came out spoke against Paris, against San Berdino. Better yet, how many Muslims that just now have come out and speak on this? The answer is ****ing ZERO!
Originally posted by Lestov16
How am I politicizing it when you're trying to make it about Islam? What hypocrisy.
Pls quote where I said this was about Islam? Or are you meaning someone else (would help if you would QUOTE the ppl you are replying to)?
The only thing I remember is my "there's always that one guy" remark and you are woefully misinformed if you think that was me making this about Islam.
Here is the POS
He called 911 and pledged allegiance to Al bagdadi and ISIS.
Originally posted by Lestov16
How am I politicizing it when you're trying to make it about Islam? What hypocrisy.
Have you ever seen Islamic terror acts with your own eyes? I have and let me tell you This is a trademark Islamic barbarism at work.
Islam is a barbaric religion at its core and they cause problems anywhere they are until it is according to their beliefs.
I can't ignore ignorance, sorry. Anyways, you want to politicize it as an Islamic attack but not as a homophobic one. Muslims should pay but homophobes...nah. Like I said, you just need it to fit into your political Islamophobic narrative, instead of dealing with the concept of religious homophobia as a whole. You just want to tackle one religion's radicals but leave radical homophobia of all other religions impune to scrutiny.
You're the ones politicizing this, and doing so just to justify your Islamophobia. You're ignoring the homophobic aspects of the attack and exploiting it to push your political Islamophobic narrative.
What a shameful disservice to the victims of the attack. They died because of homophobic resentment of their sexual orientation and you exploit their deaths to push a political Islamophobic agenda. How disgusting of you.
Originally posted by Lestov16
I can't ignore ignorance, sorry. Anyways, you want to politicize it as an Islamic attack but not as a homophobic one. Muslims should pay but homophobes...nah. Like I said, you just need it to fit into your political Islamophobic narrative, instead of dealing with the concept of religious homophobia as a whole. You just want to tackle one religion's radicals but leave radical homophobia of all other religions impune to scrutiny.You're the ones politicizing this, and doing so just to justify your Islamophobia. You're ignoring the homophobic aspects of the attack and exploiting it to push your political Islamophobic narrative.
What a shameful disservice to the victims of the attack. They died because of homophobic resentment of their sexual orientation and you exploit their deaths to push a political Islamophobic agenda. How disgusting of you.
Are you ignorant or just delusional? All news outlets report this as most likely a terrorist attack. Why are you complaining about homophobia? Try not inserting your social beliefs into a discussion when facts don't support them. If you can point to a single instance of homophobia, you would be taken more seriously. The fact that it was a gay bar doesn't have anything to do with homophobia. This looks like a terrorist attack, plain and simple.
Kinda like how you opportunistically used this tragedy to spout your ideological intolerance? And how you used generalizations to judge the merits of different ideologies by simply lumping them all together, individual differences (on the beliefs themselves as we all as the differences on how the individual acts on their beliefs) notwithstanding?
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Pls quote where I said this was about Islam? Or are you meaning someone else (would help if you would QUOTE the ppl you are replying to)?The only thing I remember is my "there's always that one guy" remark and you are woefully misinformed if you think that was me making this about Islam.
My apologies. My main point is that the lesson that should be learned here is that religious homophobia of any Abrahamic religion is wrong, and the lesson is not simply "MOREZ PROOF DATZ MUZLIMS IZ EVUL" that TI seems to believe, because all religions have homophobic scripture and dogma that leads to intolerance (such as Kim Davis) which eventually devolves into mass murder as it did here. TI just wants to attack the Islamic homophobia whereas all religious homophobia should be in question.
Originally posted by Lestov16Yea except for oh I don't know, let's say 15 years or so, terror has come from one place only and that's Islam. Nobody is going to bat for TI here but the fact that you're ignoring Islamic terrorism and inserting something about homophobia is telling.
My apologies. My main point is that the lesson that should be learned here is that religious homophobia of any Abrahamic religion is wrong, and the lesson is not simply "MOREZ PROOF DATZ MUZLIMS IZ EVUL" that TI seems to believe, because all religions have homophobic scripture and dogma that leads to intolerance (such as Kim Davis) which eventually devolves into mass murder as it did here. TI just wants to attack the Islamic homophobia whereas all religious homophobia should be in question.
Originally posted by Lestov16
My apologies. My main point is that the lesson that should be learned here is that religious homophobia of any Abrahamic religion is wrong, and the lesson is not simply "MOREZ PROOF DATZ MUZLIMS IZ EVUL" that TI seems to believe, because all religions have homophobic scripture and dogma that leads to intolerance (such as Kim Davis) which eventually devolves into mass murder as it did here. TI just wants to attack the Islamic homophobia whereas all religious homophobia should be in question.
You are a fool, nice job making this about me and now and not about the actual perpetrator who killed 50 people in the name of lslam. Did I go and kill anyone in the name of Christianity?
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Are you ignorant or just delusional? All news outlets report this as most likely a terrorist attack. Why are you complaining about homophobia? Try not inserting your social beliefs into a discussion when facts don't support them. If you can point to a single instance of homophobia, you would be taken more seriously. The fact that it was a gay bar doesn't have anything to do with homophobia. This looks like a terrorist attack, plain and simple.Pretty much this Lestov. Your views here are pretty well known. I think we can all agree whatever nonsense you learned at your liberal college, you're more comfortable regurgitating it on a public forum rather than stopping to think that you appear to be a hypocrite who often engages in double standards.
Again, I said this is UNDOUBTEDLY a terrorist attack. You just want to ignore that it was a homophobic terrorist attack against gays. Again, what a disservice to their death.
Also, are we seriously doing ad hominem attacks? Do I have have start reporting people for personal attacks again? Let's leave the personal attacks alone and stick with the topic at hand.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You are a fool, nice job making this about me and now and not about the actual perpetrator who killed 50 people in the name of lslam. Did I go and kill anyone in the name of Christianity?
There are people who have.
Look my question is simple. Do you think all of Islam's sects, including Sufis, is inherently radical, and do you think Islam is the only Abrahamic religion capable of having radical sects?