Originally posted by Nai
Since that never happened, I don't know what I should explain here. 🙄
Me thinks he means that instance with an A-wing against the Executor, which has already been explained multiple times. Hobbie already has already questioned the idea of two starfighters against a Star Destroyer as if it was something impossible...which that's clear.
LEIA
All troop carriers will assemble
at the north entrance. The heavy
transport ships will leave as
soon as they're loaded. Only two
fighter escorts per ship. The
energy shield can only be opened
for a short time, so you'll have
to stay very close to your transports.
HOBBIE
Two fighters against a Star Destroyer?
LEIA
The ion cannon will fire several
shots to make sure that any enemy
ships will be out of your flight
path. When you've gotten past the
energy shield, proceed directly to
the rendezvous point. Understood?
PILOTS
(in unison)
Right. Okay.
Originally posted by Nai
Since that never happened, I don't know what I should explain here. 🙄
It actually did, one A wing took down the shield generators, then one crashed into the bridge and caused the whole thing to crash into the death star.
Something the vengeance could easily replicate.
Did you not watch the Return of the Jedi?
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edit: fixed for the sharpshooting clowns
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
It actually did, one x wing took down the shield generators, then one crashed into the bridge and caused the whole thing to crash into the death star.Something the vengeance could easily replicate.
You mean the Executor...you mean the ship that was being pounded upon by the entire Rebel fleet, also two A-wings took out it's shield generators after that fact and one A-wing crashed into the bridge. Not X-wings.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
It actually did, one x wing took down the shield generators, then one crashed into the bridge and caused the whole thing to crash into the death star.Something the vengeance could easily replicate.
Did you not watch the Return of the Jedi?
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Did you not watch Return of the Jedi?
The Executor was the focus target of the entire Rebel Fleet before the shields were destroyed. And at that point, it had already been the main target in a space battle lasting - what - 20 minutes? 30 minutes?
That is what we call "context" and you really shouldn't ignore that when trying to make arguments. Otherwise, you just make yourself look like a lobotomized assclown. And we already have quanchi for that job.
Originally posted by Nai
Did you not watch Return of the Jedi?The Executor was the focus target of the entire Rebel Fleet before the shields were destroyed. And at that point, it had already been the main target in a space battle lasting - what - 20 minutes? 30 minutes?
That is what we call "context" and you really shouldn't ignore that when trying to make arguments. Otherwise, you just make yourself look like a lobotomized assclown. And we already have quanchi for that job.
So what you are saying is that the A wings select strikes on the shield generators are not Replicable with photon torpedo and all the other weaponry the Vengeance has?? And nothing the vengeance has is going to damage a star destroyer?
Originally posted by The Ellimist
That also wasn't the shield generator. It was some communication tower.
Thats a shield generator.
And here are the quotes.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So what you are saying is that the A wings select strikes on the shield generators are not Replicable with photon torpedo and all the other weaponry the Vengeance has?? And nothing the vengeance has is going to damage a star destroyer?
Yes. Pretty much.
Unless you have an entire fleet as backup to fire on the thing over a prolonged time-span in order to weaken the shields before such an attack. And even then: Trek weapons are still toys compared to Star Wars weapons.
I cannot agree with that for a few reasons, previously there had been no direct damage to the shield generators. It was only when the A wings went on approach to hit them.
Yes fish lips said "focus all fire on the main star destroyer." However that was then shown to be the A wing attack. There was not any big weapons that was hitting the shield generators.
A photon torpedo is so beyond the A Wing's blasters its not even worth mentioning.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I cannot agree with that for a few reasons, previously there had been no direct damage to the shield generators. It was only when the A wings went on approach to hit them.
The shield generators are located where in relation to the shields themselves? I'd suppose: they are protected by the aforementioned shields. So how, pray tell, does an A-Wing destroy the shield generator, unless the shields have been previously disabled [i.e. by the Executor participating in a rather long space-battle previously to this incident]?
Which is even what is shown on screen:
0:05 - 0:10
We see two A-Wings attacking the shield deflector, with the first one not doing any kind of damage and the second one just causing damage with the last hit, with then blows the generator up.
And judging from the explosion, those starfighter mounted weapons are still more powerful than anything Star Trek has to offer.
Yes fish lips said "focus all fire on the main star destroyer." However that was then shown to be the A wing attack. There was not any big weapons that was hitting the shield generators.
You again ignore the fact that the Executor was participating in the space battle for an extended period of time and is even seen being hit on screen multiple times, when Luke looks out of the Death Star window, apparently by weapons that generate explosions with a one kilometer diameter against the shields. And this was going on for 10 minutes? 20 Minutes?
And even if the entire Rebel fleet just focuses fire on something for five seconds that would be rather huge amounts of firepower being fired on the Executor there and then.
A photon torpedo is so beyond the A Wing's blasters its not even worth mentioning.
Oh yeah? Care to present proof for that claim? Because from the onscreen evidence, the weapons mounted on starfighters deliver far more damage than photon torpedos. The explosion of the shield generator on the Executor would be a good example. The salvo Luke fires into the Death Star surface in "A New Hope" would be another.
Originally posted by Nai
The shield generators are located where in relation to the shields themselves? I'd suppose: they are protected by the aforementioned shields. So how, pray tell, does an A-Wing destroy the shield generator, unless the shields have been previously disabled [i.e. by the Executor participating in a rather long space-battle previously to this incident]?Which is even what is shown on screen:
0:05 - 0:10
We see two A-Wings attacking the shield deflector, with the first one not doing any kind of damage and the second one just causing damage with the last hit, with then blows the generator up.And judging from the explosion, those starfighter mounted weapons are still more powerful than anything Star Trek has to offer.
You again ignore the fact that the Executor was participating in the space battle for an extended period of time and is even seen being hit on screen multiple times, when Luke looks out of the Death Star window, apparently by weapons that generate explosions with a one kilometer diameter against the shields. And this was going on for 10 minutes? 20 Minutes?
And even if the entire Rebel fleet just focuses fire on something for five seconds that would be rather huge amounts of firepower being fired on the Executor there and then.
Oh yeah? Care to present proof for that claim? Because from the onscreen evidence, the weapons mounted on starfighters deliver far more damage than photon torpedos. The explosion of the shield generator on the Executor would be a good example. The salvo Luke fires into the Death Star surface in "A New Hope" would be another.
You didn't really refute anything but back up everything I claimed. As Zen said, Executer is not in this fight.
Photon Torpedos will and can disable the shields.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You didn't really refute anything but back up everything I claimed.
Gosh. I've found the only person even more stupid and ignorant than quanchi. Hooray for me.
As Zen said, Executer is not in this fight.
Yeah. Just another ship using the same technology on a smaller scale.
Photon Torpedos will and can disable the shields.
Prove up or shut up. 🙂
@Zenwolf
Originally posted by Zenwolf
They were concussion missiles, or at least that's what the A-wing carries. Although from the movie they do appear to be protons. Weird how they change the loadout for an A-wing in other sources. /Shrug
Nope, they weren't.
If those things were warhead, we would have seen visible explosion on their impacts. Since that didn't happen, those were energy weapons.