If only the text didn't state that's exactly what Odan-Urr attacked him
Scan? 'Cause I don't recall anything indicating that it was Force Light/Sever that shoved Kun silly, KEK.
with before Kun one-shotted the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy. Far before his prime.
Gewd for Exar. Starkiller has taken out a horde of powerful Force sensitive with a telekinetic surge ---- Vader was an equal to 'Killer, before becoming "far more formidable" in ESB, and further reaching the pinnacle of his power in RotJ. So yeah, Kun's TK isn't shit next to Vader's. 👆
He legit just absorbed her disintegrating sorcery attack and flattened her in turn.[/QOUTE]None of this detracts from my original argument, KEK. Ashing a normal person is different from a Force sensitive.
[QUOTE]Kun states he can ash enemies whenever he whims in the TOTJ audiodrama, clearly he has no interest in focusing his powers on Keto with the far more powerful Ulic right there.
So, he needs concentration to take out a scrub like Keto? Heck, Exar didn't even do any real damage to her whatsoever. Fact of the matter is, Exar had no reason to keep Aleema alive, and his intent was to kill both her and Ulic, yet his Force blast only momentarily dazed her.
But thanks for reminding everbody that Exar Kun's blasts can ash Massassi, blow chunks out of parts of a temple and rip a gargantuan Sith wyrm in half.
Kun was very far away from his prime, so even accounting for an amplification from the temple, such an amp can't even begin to compare to how much power Exar Kun gained in the years following that. But thanks for reminding everybody that Exar Kun's blasts can ash Massassi, blow chunks out of parts of a temple and rip a gargantuan Sith wyrm in half.
You keep throwing this "before his prime" malarkey around as if it's supposed to prove something, it doesn't. Given Kun has no feats, or statements whatsoever that proves he can replicate those Force blast showings without being amped to a significant degree, than I'm not buying it.
Of course, I'm very liberal in my views so if you can form a case for why this "before prime" jazz means a something of substance, besides an arbitrary throw-away words, I'd gladly change my views in a heart beat, dear.
Exar Kun as a weakened spirit stomped Master Luke with sorcery through Kyp Durron.
Good for Exar; it's worth noting that Luke never attempted to fight back, and that, as far as I know, Luke had like zero experience with sorcery at the time. You know, it's kinda hard to counter something when you're completely ignorant on the subject, therefore how to combat it. Luckily, Vader has studied sorcery to a significant degree himself, and even knew how to conjure beast of pure DS power that are invulnerable to blaster bolts, and completely drain Force sensitive of their life force.
Master Luke who is even stronger and more masterful than DE Luke who'd already surpassed ROTJ Vader in the six years leading to Dark Empire.
Except, Luke has zero feats/accolades that place him above Vader at that time, LMAO. In fact, Palpatine makes it clear on DE that with further training, Luke COULD surpass Vader, implying he wasn't there yet. Now, of course you CAN make a case that Luke was > Vader --- but it's far from clear cut as you guys seem to make it to be.
Originally posted by Syndicate
I'm just arguing against using failed logic to support your arguments.
It's hardly failed. It's a scripted event in the game, pretty much a cutscene. It's also supported by various accolades of Vader, as well as the TFU II novel which indicates Vader whooped Starkiller's ass while holding back.
You just keep on wanking tho boy 👆
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
It's hardly failed. It's a scripted event in the game, pretty much a cutscene. It's also supported by various accolades of Vader, as well as the TFU II novel which indicates Vader whooped Starkiller's ass while holding back.You just keep on wanking tho boy 👆
If that's your stance I won't argue against it though you should know the other game versions don't have such an event occur thus making it a contradicted event. But does that mean you take scripted events like this one seriously?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8MVtBu0Cuk
4:35-4:45
This occurs in the same version where Starkiller is ragdolled.
Aside from that there is no official accolade placing Vader as Starkiller's superior only an interview by a voice actor. In the TFUII novel Vader never shows superiority in the Force only frustrating Starkiller's attempted lightsaber offensives while Juno lay dying. Something I'm sure you can agree affected how Starkiller fought Vader as he even muses to himself that he wouldn't be able to defeat Vader before Juno was dead if she wasn't dead already by that point which is ultimately what caused him to attempt to get Vader to lower his guard.
Originally posted by carthage
Vader wins.Exar lacks any non circumstantial force feat that places him above Vader in power. Never mind he paralyzed a bunch of non force sensitives, Vader doesn't have anything on that level
Sarcasm?
If not, this is completely wrong, In the chamber scene, he casts a sith spell all the jedi in the senate room along with the senators. The strongest of the Jedi order was there, such as Nomi Sunrider, Cay El-Droma etc.
Additionally, I can name at least 3 or so force/sorcery feats that Kun has over Vader.
Originally posted by Syndicate
If that's your stance I won't argue against it ( though you should know the other game versions don't have this event occur ) thus making it a contradicted event.
Sources of similar canon level can't contradict each other, they simply tell an other side of the story. Or it's a retcon, which I doubt 1 game would do to another.
Originally posted by Syndicate
But does that mean you take scripted events like this one seriously?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8MVtBu0Cuk
4:35-4:45
This occurs in the same version where Starkiller is ragdolled.
He already did similar in the TFU comic so why not. I only disragard the QTEs.