Darth Vader vs. Exar Kun

Started by Deronn_solo52 pages

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Well I thought you meant that he summoned one somewhere. But yeah, reading that issue now and I see.

Well, not on panel, but given he factually taught it to Kharys, he had to have summon one as a demonstration at some point in time.

It really hammers home the point that Vader isn't just all TK like most think, kek.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Sources of similar canon level can't contradict each other, they simply tell an other side of the story. Or it's a retcon, which I doubt 1 game would do to another.

He already did similar in the TFU comic so why not. I only disragard the QTEs.

What's your stances on scenes like the ISD and Galen blasting Sidious in TFU where in ALL versions he's shown doing this ( including the comic in regards to Sidious )? Do you take them as his actual capabilities?

Also in regards to TFUII what happens if the linear cutscenes in different versions of the game directly contradict each other as is the case?

Fair enough to your last one.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
I can list a dozen Vader feats beyond non-nexus, non-amulet Exar 👆

But amulets became part of exar kun's power lol.

Gradually, Kun stated that he began to need Amulets less and less, and instead relied more on himself.

Originally posted by Syndicate
What's your stances on scenes like the ISD and Galen blasting Sidious in TFU where in ALL versions he's shown doing this ( including the comic in regards to Sidious )? Do you take them as his actual capabilities?

For the ISD, he redirected it. As for Sidious, he was jobbing on purpose.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Also in regards to TFUII what happens if the linear cutscenes in different versions of the game directly contradict each other as is the case?

Such as?

Originally posted by vox
But amulets became part of exar kun's power lol.

Gradually, Kun stated that he began to need Amulets less and less, and instead relied more on himself.

He still used it.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
For the ISD, he redirected it. As for Sidious, he was jobbing on purpose.

Such as?

All versions of the game show that his redirection of the ISD was on a greater scale then what was described in the novel. What do you think about this contradiction?

Alright.

When Galen is arriving on the platform and is ragdolled by Vader in the Xbox version ( I believe it's the Xbox version ) the in game fight begins. In the Wii version you simply take a lift before it cuts to a cut scene of Vader showing he has Juno as a hostage and then the clone charging and the in game fight starting.

How is this still a debate? Vader gets iguodala'd

Just because you believe in that cancer, doesn't mean that people working with fully functional brains should.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Well, not on panel, but given he factually taught it to Kharys, he had to have summon one as a demonstration at some point in time.

It really hammers home the point that Vader isn't just all TK like most think, kek.

True, although that was like way back when, I could think of a few instances where a near invincible dark side creature would have came in handy.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
How is this still a debate? Vader gets iguodala'd

😂

Exar takes Vader, yeah.

Originally posted by vox
Gradually, Kun stated that he began to need Amulets less and less, and instead relied more on himself.

S & Q?

Originally posted by Syndicate
All versions of the game show that his redirection of the ISD was on a greater scale then what was described in the novel. What do you think about this contradiction?

It's been a while since I played that part so no comment.

Originally posted by Syndicate
When Galen is arriving on the platform and is ragdolled by Vader in the Xbox version ( I believe it's the Xbox version ) the in game fight begins. In the Wii version you simply take a lift before it cuts to a cut scene of Vader showing he has Juno as a hostage and then the clone charging and the in game fight starting.

Like I said, different interpretations of the fight. Like how Galen and Shaak only dueled in the novel, while they had a force exchange in the comic. Or how Dooku choked Kenobi in the junior novel, but only force pushed him in the normal novel.

I don't hold either in higher regard than the other. Galen taking the elevator in one description in the fight, while getting Force Gripped in the other hardly means Vader can't ragdoll him. Only that he choose not to in the elevator scene.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
😂

Exar takes Vader, yeah.

You have now been demoted to shit tier Skillz. Congratulations.

👆

Neither of you are reasonably allowed to make that decision. 🙂

Yeah, we are. You ancient Sith dick-riding, has reached unprecedented levels.

I'm just waiting for you to put Marka Ragnos > Darth Caedus, tbh.

DC was a debater when you couldn't even walk kid. Respect your elders.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
S & Q?

Kun > Vader has never been an inconceivable notion, nor am I wanking ancient Sith to unprecedented levels. Stick to Football. 🙂

1. Force: Vader's feats suggest that he has the edge in raw power, but Exar's sorcery is potent enough to overwhelm JA Luke even as a weakened spirit (and I still think it's implied that full power Kun > spirit Kun + Kyp), so I'd give him the win.

2. Sabers: Vader prob has Force augmentation, Kun has mobility, skill is difficult to discern as both were prodigies, but honestly Anakin seems more prodigious, having pressed Dooku as a padawan and then surpassed him in like three years, etc.

3. All-out: Exar probably wins with his sorcery, if it was enough to take out Luke that easily, but Vader still has a shot if he counters with his telekinesis and then rushes him. Still, for now I'm sticking with Exar for a slight majority.