I don't think he is. He hasn't shown the raw power; I'm not convinced that he actually lifted that ship. His only other impressive demonstration of raw power would be that TP feat, which again is really weird.
His beskar shattering is interesting, except we don't know how tough they are to physical impact; their resisting lightsabers is different.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
It's still an unorthodox combination. In either case, I think Obi Wan knew trakata, I don't think Vader would be flustered by "advanced hybrid niman", and it seems like his unique weapon is simply inferior to the double bladed forms later more thoroughly developed, which Vader is almost certainly familiar with.Vader likely has better Force augmentation, his skill feats are superior, etc.
Vader doesn't have better augmentation.
Plus stop suggesting those are his only impressive feats. 😬
One-shotting Odan-Urr, who is the most powerful Jedi of his time, including Thon and Vodo,, after shrugging off his most powerful attack, before becoming much more powerful off of the most powerful Sith holocron in the mythos and gaining all the most precious artifacts and holocrons from the greatest collection of Jedi and Sith knowledge in the mythos.
I won't even start with what he did with Luke's praxeum.
Kun beats Vader, tbh. Close fight though. I have Kun as a direct equal with Revan and Krayt, I'm not particularly impressed with his spirit feats though.
I think better indication of his abilities is his superiority to the ancient Sith Lords, domination of Odan-Urr and Aleema Keto, and handling of Freedon Nadd.
Although AP, if you can provide a short tl;dr on the best spirit feats to refresh my memory, that would be interesting and help solidify my placement of him.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Plus stop suggesting those are his only impressive feats. 😬One-shotting Odan-Urr, who is the most powerful Jedi of his time, including Thon and Vodo,, after shrugging off his most powerful attack, before becoming much more powerful off of the most powerful Sith holocron in the mythos and gaining all the most precious artifacts and holocrons from the greatest collection of Jedi and Sith knowledge in the mythos.
I won't even start with what he did with Luke's praxeum.
None of these things really do you much. One-shotting Odan-Urr? What has Odan-Urr done compared to Vader? Just being called the most powerful Jedi of his time means little compared to one of the most powerful sith of all time.
Simultaneously choking a team of melded Jedi, who in a less powerful state can cause hurricane strength winds that reduced four TIE fighters to molten wreckage with AE, flatten multiple AT-STs with a Force wave in a second, and throw large boulders faster than TIE fighters can flee at full speed; whilst in a starved and sourceless state. That is incredibly impressive and a greater feat against Force users than any TK feats Vader has accomplished against numerous Force users.
Case number one being his inability to tackle those eight Jedi with ease, which whilst pre-prime for Vader, isn't comparable to how much more powerful Exar Kun is in his own prime.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
None of these things really do you much. One-shotting Odan-Urr? What has Odan-Urr done compared to Vader? Just being called the most powerful Jedi of his time means little compared to one of the most powerful sith of [b]all time. [/B]
Lol I'm comparing what Exar Kun has done to what Vader has done.
LMFAO. There's a legit statement that makes it clear that the focal points can only afford him the ability to resist the pull of the void and remain in the physical realm as a disembodied will, nothing more. Better yet, Kyp was on the other side of the galaxy and states that Kun was distracted by something and wouldn't answer his calls. He doesn't even attempt to draw on Kyp's emotions until he's already being torn out of the physical world.
When Kyp is around, his senses are confirmed to be feeble to Kun's and his telekinetic attacks are a 'light breeze' compared to Kun's 'full on gale'. Furthermore Kyp is confirmed to be incapable of filling the lost reserves of energy that Kun had in life.
But please continue with your evident ignorance.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Simultaneously choking a team of melded Jedi, who in a less powerful state can cause hurricane strength winds that reduced four TIE fighters to molten wreckage with AE, flatten multiple AT-STs with a Force wave in a second, and throw large boulders faster than TIE fighters can flee at full speed; whilst in a starved and sourceless state. That is incredibly impressive and a greater feat against Force users than any TK feats Vader has accomplished against numerous Force users.Case number one being his inability to tackle those eight Jedi with ease, which whilst pre-prime for Vader, isn't comparable to how much more powerful Exar Kun is in his own prime.
This post will tell you everything you could want to know about the feat in question: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15835224#post15835224
Exar Kun himself possessed a great many other dark powers that he was unable to harness without the energy he needed to fuel his disembodied will. Some of these powers he was able to channel through Kyp, Gantoris, and Streen to achieve his ends.-- Jedi Academy Training Manual
Kun never managed to fully invoke his powers as a spirit.