By feats related to environmental manipulation, I'd say Kyp; his freighter feat is as good as Galen's showings, and his black hole feat is beyond anything Marek has done.
By feats related to combat, you could argue Galen given his army-busting and matching Vader, but Kyp hasn't necessarily been in the same situations to allow for that comparison, I dunno. Kyp does underperform at times.
By powerscaling, accolades and implications, Kyp Durron definitely; he's been suggested to have raw power on Luke's tier, while Galen is distinctly below Sidious.
Overall I'd say Kyp wins Force and all-out if he doesn't job, sabers is murkier.
Originally posted by FreshestSliceWhen the game (which came first, and was developed by LucasArts), contradicts the novel at some points.
Oneness totally isn't an amp.
Like when Vader holds back against Galen, when we clearly see him push Vader's shit in, once canonically, twice if you count his clone, and three times if you wanna add in the non-canon fight where he kills Vader.
Maybe not in the fight itself, but QTE events are scripted, so they count.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Except for the explicit description of the novelization, lmao.
Actually the thing you guys think is Oneness occurs after he gets into a force lock with Sidious. I provided this quote in another thread and you never responded.
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"The Sith lightning spread to engulf the two of them, fueled by both their desperations. The Emperor tipped back his head and howled in lascivious pain. Darkness threatened to envelop the apprentice's mind, but he clutched to consciousness with feverish will. He had to see this through. He had to.
A squadron of stormtroopers ran into the room, led by a limping Darth Vader. They raised their blasters to gun down the Rebels as they fled up the Rogue Shadow's ramp.
"No!" the apprentice cried, dropping his defenses to strike one last time at the Imperials." - The Force Unleashed.
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This is I believe what you guys are referring to when referring to Galen's Oneness and as shown it takes place after he matches Sidious.
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"Energy surged through him. He felt as though a star had blazed to life in his chest. Driven by concern for his friends rather than himself, he embraced the Force completely, utterly, and was rewarded with strength that made his efforts with the dark side look like those of a child. His nerves were on fire. Streamers of light radiated from his skin. His bones glowed like radiant lava." - The Force Unleashed.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Oneness totally isn't an amp.
Except Jmanghan's correct in that what you all believe to be Oneness didn't occur until after he had decided he was going to sacrifice himself to save the Rebels and Juno which again was after he had already engaged Sidious in a force lock.
Originally posted by NewGuy01I don't own the novel, I own the game, and both have the same level of canon, and the novel is BASED on the game, and what happens in the novel is stupid, they try to treat Galen as a force noob when he clearly ****s up everything in his path.
Being right and being able to construct a half-decent argument to prove you're right are two very different things.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
I don't own the novel, I own the game, and both have the same level of canon, and the novel is BASED on the game, and what happens in the novel is stupid, they try to treat Galen as a force noob when he clearly ****s up everything in his path.
Honestly the novel portrays Galen as a monstrous force user from the first mission to Raxus Prime onward.