Originally posted by Jmanghan
I don't own the novel, I own the game,
Why does this matter? Does the novel not exist if you don't own it?
and both have the same level of canon,
Which is exactly why the game doesn't invalidate what's in the novel...
and what happens in the novel is stupid, they try to treat Galen as a force noob when he clearly ****s up everything in his path.
Tragic. Canon, too. 👆
That's in the TFUII fight between Vader and the clone but even that's not official, only the opinion of the voice actor Sam Witwer and thus dismissable.
The writers of the first game said that Galen Marek was the photo negative of Luke Skywalker and George Lucas said that Luke Skywalker had the potential of the Chosen One. Galen Marek's potential honestly lines up with this given Sidious says that Galen could have been his successor.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Erm, this, that was just pointed out. Galen Marek was already hanging with Sidious.
I can't check the source dispute atm, but Kyp beat Luke in the black hole feat comparison so who knows if he could block Sidious's tutanimus?
Kyp has a higher suggested tier in the mythos and honestly a better Magnus opus feat.
It's accurate. Here's the full passage.
Spoiler:
"Good," hissed the Emperor, his claw-like hands upraised between them like a weak old man fending off an attacker. Stumbling, he fell to his knees. "Yes." He looked up at the apprentice. "You were destined to destroy me. Do it! Give in to your hatred!"The apprentice stood over him for a moment with his lightsaber upraised. Its aqua light reflected in the eyes of the galaxy's Emperor as though it was the last thing he would ever see.
With a snap, the apprentice extinguished the blade and lowered his arm.
Kota limped up behind him and put a hand on his shoulder. "That's it, boy," he said with rough pride. "He's beaten. Let it go."
The sound of engines from above distracted them both. They looked up to see the Rogue Shadow descending over the shattered dome, lights flashing on and off to attract their attention. Its repulsors dispelled the last of the smoke and sent the apprentice's tattered cape whipping around his legs.
Juno, he thought. At last, everything is going to be all right.
"You fool!" snarled the Emperor, sending another wave of Sith lightning into Kota's back. "He will never be yours."
Kota fell with his arms upraised, and the apprentice knew that it wasn't over yet. The moment of truth had arrived.
Without hesitation, he stepped between Kota and the Emperor, taking the full brunt of the Sith lightning into his own body.
The pain was incredible, searing every nerve back to its individual cells, skewering each of them on white-hot needles. He had never before felt anything like this. He wanted to recoil from the source, to curl into a ball and let unconsciousness take the pain away, but somehow he stayed standing, seeing the world through a crackling blue light, and even took a step toward the Emperor.
"Go!" he hissed at Kota. "Hurry!"
The general hesitated only for a moment. He, too, had seen a glimpse of the future, the apprentice remembered. He knew that it came down to a simple choice: him and the Rebels or the apprentice and darkness forever. Gathering up the Rebels, Kola ushered them toward the descending ship.
Another staggering, painful step and the Emperor was within the apprentice's reach. With shaking fingers, he took the old man's bony shoulders in his hands and gripped them tight. The Sith lightning spread to engulf the two of them, fueled by both their desperations. The Emperor tipped back his head and howled in lascivious pain. Darkness threatened to envelop the apprentice's mind, but he clutched to consciousness with feverish will. He had to see this through. He had to.
A squadron of stormtroopers ran into the room, led by a limping Darth Vader. They raised their blasters to gun down the Rebels as they fled up the Rogue Shadow's ramp.
"No!" the apprentice cried, dropping his defenses to strike one last time at the Imperials. Energy surged through him. He felt as though a star had blazed to life in his chest. Driven by concern for his friends rather than himself, he embraced the Force completely, utterly, and was rewarded with strength that made his efforts with the dark side look like those of a child. His nerves were on fire. Streamers of light radiated from his skin. His bones glowed like radiant lava.
He saw rather than felt the massive shock wave that consumed a large portion of what remained of the observation dome. A glowing bubble of fire tore the stormtroopers to shreds and engulfed Vader and the Emperor. Shrapnel filled the air like dust caught in the beam of the Death Star's powerful laser.
Tossed like a leaf, the Rogue Shadow fled in haste, ramp snapping shut on its precious cargo.
I'm still a little iffy about that Dovan Basil feat Ell. Isn't it a machine/device that creates a black hole and not an actual black hole itself?
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Game = Novel.Or in this case, Game > Novel.
Its based on the game.
Just like the movie novels contradict stuff and are based on the movies.
I was more referring to your lack of knowledge, and some general lulz, I.e. Stating that the novel portrays Galen as a force noob, then using a quote from the novel as the focal point of your argument regarding Galen's superiority over Kyp.
Originally posted by The EllimistBecause Palpatine is the most powerful Dark Side user ever, barring The Son, and his mastery of Force Storm is the best use of a force power, period.
I can't check the source dispute atm, but Kyp beat Luke in the black hole feat comparison so who knows if he could block Sidious's tutanimus?Kyp has a higher suggested tier in the mythos and honestly a better Magnus opus feat.
Originally posted by JmanghanI don't own the novel either, but from what I've read, I feel they did the right thing. The games make Vader look awfully weak and borderline pathetic twice in a row. It felt like reading a bad fanfic with some self-insert character showing the established characters who is boss.
I don't own the novel, I own the game, and both have the same level of canon, and the novel is BASED on the game, and what happens in the novel is stupid, they try to treat Galen as a force noob when he clearly ****s up everything in his path.
I wasn't aware that qualifies as "nerd talk", KEK. But in layman's terms; in order to move the black holes he would:
1) Have to over power the Dovin's hold on black hole --- which, by all intents and purposes, should be monstrous giving that these things can focus such insane amount of gravitational force, that they can virtually collapse time/space, and create gravatic anomalies that can completely atomize matter, absorb missiles, tear the very shields off hulls, so on and so forth.
2) He would have to move the hole itself, which, again, should be packing a pretty good degree of mass given it's gravitational pull, and such.
Quite frankly, if I was to get all sciency with the feat, the number would be absolutely absurd.
Put those two together, and you have arguably, the greatest non-nexus, non-amped, TK feats in Star Wars.
Originally posted by Syndicate
The immensity of the feat is all that matters. How much effort somebody took to accomplish a feat is often the most circumstantial factor.
Of course feats are affected by circumstances, but Kyp performing a feat easier than the guy who'd rip Galen Marek a new one is extremely relevant. 👆