Galen Mareck vs Kyp Durron

Originally posted by MythLord
The novel came out before the game and offers a far greater description on the subject. Besides, we have confirmation Galen is no match for Palpatine and that Palpatine was tooling with him the entire time.

I was pleasantly surprised to find that you were right.

Regardless, did you miss the passage that said Marek was hanging with him just fine before Oneness came into play? Or the part where Sidious was pulling his head back in pain?

And, not only was Marek matching with Tutaminis, he was also able to pull back foe a sexond to stop some pesky Imperials that were hurting his friends.

Originally posted by MythLord
The novel came out before the game and offers a far greater description on the subject. Besides, we have confirmation Galen is no match for Palpatine and that Palpatine was tooling with him the entire time.

That's not how the novel describes it. The only thing that supports your assertion is the non canon ending. Unless you have a quote from an official source.

He is referring to a quote from an official source. I don't remember what source that is, but I'll scout for it.

EDIT: Got it.

Lightsabers clashed in the Emperor's observation dome, but Starkiller was ultimately no match for the power of Darth Sidious.
-- The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

Originally posted by Jmanghan
And, not only was Marek matching with Tutaminis, he was also able to pull back foe a sexond to stop some pesky Imperials that were hurting his friends.

Tbf dealing with the Imperials caused him to drop his defenses which ultimately cost him his life.

He was dead anyway. Or, well, captured; Palpatine seemed pretty disappointed when he died, after all.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
He is referring to a quote from an official source. I don't remember what source that is, but I'll scout for it.

EDIT: Got it.

Lightsabers clashed in the Emperor's observation dome, but Starkiller was ultimately no match for the power of Darth Sidious.
-- The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

No need. I believe I know what you're both referring to. The summation of events isn't ultimately what matters. Only the events that occurred. You can say that Obi Wan was easily dealt with by Dooku but then you'd be underplaying how well he did against the Count in a lightsaber fight.

Tbf Galen was ultimately no match for Sidious's power but neither was Yoda. It didn't stop either of them from matching him in a force lock for a time.

You believe you know? No shit, it's right there. 😬

The summation of events actually does matter, because it gives us perspective on how the events that occurred should be interpreted. Especially when we have the DS ending onhand that sends a consistent message: Galen isn't a match for Palpatine. His last stand was sacrificial from it's inception, and while faring as he did was no small feat, it's not like he was ever taking Palpatine with him.

I'm typing on a phone so it's very likely I'll be posting mid length posts long after they're relevant for the next few hours.

Fair enough. I don't think that Galen was Sidious's equal.

@Kyp lowballers: don't you feel like you're grasping at straws to try to discredit really clearly impressive feats and accolades for the lultz?

While I don't consider myself a Kyp lowballer I'm not willing to except the Kyp feats your side is peddling until I know why exactly they're so impressive.

Originally posted by Syndicate
While I don't consider myself a Kyp lowballer

Originally posted by Syndicate
While I don't consider myself a Kyp lowballer I'm not willing to except the Kyp feats your side is peddling until I know why exactly they're so impressive.

Moving black holes, ragdolling freighters and one-shotting leviathans mean nothing? Lol.

Originally posted by SunRazer
The singularity that he manipulated was likely more powerful.

It might be the opposite, since Kyp's was in space and Luke's was a ground device.

And you seem to really be trying hard to discredit one of the most impressive feats in Star Wars just because you don't want Kyp to win, lol.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Moving black holes, ragdolling freighters and one-shotting leviathans mean nothing? Lol.

I need to know what exactly the black hole was capable of to understand the magnitude of Kyp's feat.

The other feats have been replicated by Galen to greater or less degrees.

Now, DC says that the black hole atomized the 100 meter ship. Can I get confirmation of this via a quote/scan?

Despite the fact I spelled out for you what the holes are capable of, and explicitly explained it's nature? Moving a gravatic anomoly that visibly collapse space/time, while fighting the force of the creature that created it --- is better than anything Galen has done.

I'm on my phone but yeah it actually swallows the ship.

Marek is a way better fighter than Durron is, he should win.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Despite the fact I spelled out for you what the holes are capable of, and explicitly explained it's nature? Moving a gravatic anomoly that visibly collapse space/time, while fighting the force of the creature that created it --- is better than anything Galen has done.

This isn't a real black hole though. Just an artificial singularity.

I'm asking if you have evidence that it atomized the ship. If not I'm going to simply assume the ships mass was ripped apart.

What do you mean by physically fighting the force that created it? If the creature created and is maintaining the singularity then he's only fighting against the force the singularity is producing not the thing producing the singularity as well.