RotJ Sidious vs. TOR Vitiate (TP battle)

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Vitiate

Even when Sidious mindwiped trillions? mmm

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Even when Sidious mindwiped trillions? mmm

Yea, if he actually did that instead of simply feeding on their energies for 20 years. Vitiate takes this.

Either way.

Sidious.

Sidious's machinations on Byss and Coruscant warrant the nod, I think.

Those mindrapes are hardly comparable to Vitiate's Nathema escapades, not even including Ziost here.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Those mindrapes are hardly comparable to Vitiate's Nathema escapades, not even including Ziost here.

I'm honestly not impressed by the willful participation of the Sith Lords in the Nathema ritual. Based on what we know, the Emperor affected an exponentially greater number of people and for a greater number of time than what Valkoriate's accomplished.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I'm honestly not impressed by the willful participation of the Sith Lords in the Nathema ritual. Based on what we know, the Emperor affected an exponentially greater number of people and for a greater number of time than what Valkoriate's accomplished.

👆 Sidious did it to trillions on his own power, Valkorion did it to millions (billions?)...on a nexus...with prep...and a ritual... 😐

Originally posted by The Ellimist
👆 Sidious did it to trillions on his own power, Valkorion did it to millions (billions?)...on a nexus...with prep...and a ritual... 😐

Nathema wasn't a nexus and Ziost needed no prep. Sidious did it to trillions of people over a 20 year period, doesn't get any more prep than that 😂

the Emperor affected an exponentially greater number of people and for a greater number of time than what Valkoriate's accomplished, albeit in 2 decades

@Skillz, as we had discussed earlier, Wedge's random numerical estimate aside, Sidious would've had to have affected trillions to get ride of word of the event, and he'd have to have done it really quickly, presuming some manner of social media/long range communication exists (it does).

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Fixed for accuracy. I'm not sure how a slow and steady 20 year drain is even comparable, especially since the Byss citizens didn't all of a sudden suffer a mortality increase at a younger than usual age.

We're talking telepathy, not Force drain.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Vitiate

Originally posted by The_Tempest
We're talking telepathy, not Force drain.

What exactly did he do on byss and coruscant again?

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Those mindrapes are hardly comparable to Vitiate's Nathema escapades, not even including Ziost here.

Some Kaan level shit here.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
What exactly did he do on byss and coruscant again?

Coruscant: he used his mind-fogging powers to conceal the burial of the Super Star Destroyer Lusankya from the population.

Byss: telepathically enslaved its 19.7 billion denizens.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Coruscant: he used his mind-fogging powers to conceal the burial of the Super Star Destroyer Lusankya from the population.

Byss: telepathically enslaved its 19.7 billion denizens.

How did he "enslave" them again? For 20 years they lived out their lives just fine.