Originally posted by MS WarehouseYour insults are not very original or clever.
What and where did this happen? Also since when does being possesed by Vitiate give you access to his powers or knowledge of his powers? Only one that seemed to be aware of those is the Godlander.What are they exactly? And why are you opting for recent sources, when in any other debate, you hold fast to older sources that don't take into account things like the creation of other characters?
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Dude, do you even TOR?
No, I'm not gay.
But I have watched the cutscenes and I distinctly remember someone fighting a mind-controlled/possessed female on the bridge of a ship. Was that not Beniko and was that not Vitiate? mmm
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
The only individuals that seem immune (and I use that term loosely with Vitiate) are Revan and the Godlander, who's probably Valky's offspring. NOT a good pool of candidates there for your example.
And Tol Braga. And Beniko is apparently immune to Vitiate's telepathy whilst on Ziost.
Which is another reason I'm like 80% sure she's the woman who was fought while possessed/TP'd by him.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
That seems like awesomely convenient Empire propaganda 👆
It could be. But Nyriss explicitly says that what she's telling Scourge is a myth the veracity of which she can't possibly prove. And then there's the SWTOR Encyclopedia.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
you have Caedus > Novel Vitiate,
Pretty sure you have Revan Reborn and two fodder (trainee Scourge and weakened Meetra) as possibly challenging Vitiate on a powerful dark side nexus while having just gotten back from being drugged and tortured.
Cancer 🙂
Plagueis > Valkorion,
You sure Gideon doesn't have that?
and DE Sidious >>/>>> Valkorion.
Not really, I'd say it's a fair gap though.
Which I find to be despicable. 🙂
Your rage would please Gideon most lushly. 🙂
No, I'm not gay.But I have watched the cutscenes and I distinctly remember someone fighting a mind-controlled/possessed female on the bridge of a ship. Was that not Beniko and was that not Vitiate?
And Tol Braga. And Beniko is apparently immune to Vitiate's telepathy whilst on Ziost.
It could be. But Nyriss explicitly says that what she's telling Scourge is a myth the veracity of which she can't possibly prove. And then there's the SWTOR Encyclopedia.
and KEK at Beefy still seeing that as imperial propaganda, but Nyriss's legends about what happened 1000 years ago with no witnesses as gospel over an encyclopedia. laughing
Ouch, looks like your reading comprehension skills (or lack thereof) didn't see me declaring that because of contradicting sources, we can't use this at all.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Pretty sure you have Revan Reborn and two fodder (trainee Scourge and weakened Meetra) as possibly challenging Vitiate on a powerful dark side nexus while having just gotten back from being drugged and tortured.Cancer 🙂
You sure Gideon doesn't have that?
Not really, I'd say it's a fair gap though.
Your rage would please Gideon most lushly. 🙂
While I find Meetra and Scourge being factors an inconsistency, (given how Nyriss handled them,) it's one I accept, because I'm such an upstanding individual. 🙂
Yeah, I'm 99% sure.
Fair enough that Valk has 0 chance in hell of ever winning?
Pure anger courses through me. 🙂
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Kira.
Aha.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
And if you weren't gay then you wouldn't be doing 99% of the stuff you're doing in life.
Performing sexual acts with a member of the same gender must be that critical 1% I'm missing. mmm
I'll not join you, Beef.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Braga wasn't immune and I forgot why Beniko was immune to it, it's been awhile. I don't think she was on the surface when Vitiate took command of everybody.
She was on the surface as he was possessing more people IIRC.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
What does the SWTOR encyclopedia state?
As I've said like 3 times already, that thousands of Sith flocked to Medriaas and "agreed to partake" in the Sith ritual.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Aha.Performing sexual acts with a member of the same gender must be that critical 1% I'm missing. mmm
I'll not join you, Beef.
She was on the surface as he was possessing more people IIRC.
As I've said like 3 times already, that thousands of Sith flocked to Medriaas and "agreed to partake" in the Sith ritual.
So you're saying he was able to convince 8,000 (eight thousand) sith lords of a totally safe ritual that's going to make the sith empire stronger? Looks like you just admitted Vitiate really did mindrape everybody, or he's the greatest BSer in the mythos 👆
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
So you're saying he was able to convince 8,000 (eight thousand) sith lords of a totally safe ritual that's going to make the sith empire stronger? Looks like you just admitted Vitiate really did mindrape everybody, or he's the greatest BSer in the mythos 👆
No one said Sith were always smart. Nevertheless, it says they agreed to partake in the ritual. Which corroborates the Codex.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Coruscant: he used his mind-fogging powers to conceal the burial of the Super Star Destroyer Lusankya from the population.
So many starships land at Coruscant at a time that many would not even bother. Therefore, if Palpatine is likely to have affected only a segment of the population.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Byss: telepathically enslaved its 19.7 billion denizens.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
you sure?Doesn't the Hero fight her at one point while she's possessed by him? mmm
Originally posted by The_Tempest
It's a recurring theme with Vitiate's TP. People like Revan, HOT, Tol Braga, who have experienced his mindhaxx then develop an intimate understanding of it to the point that they're immune from subsequent attempts?
Look at the example of Jedi Master Surro - one of the most powerful Jedi of the era. She managed to shrug-off Vitiate's telepathic influence at some point but Vitiate managed to possess her again (with relatively greater effort) but inadvertently damaged her mind in the process.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
The Codex entry, "Ritual of Nathema," which says Imperial scholars celebrate the ritual of Nathema as the rare coming together of Sith for the greater good and the Encyclopedia, which says thousands of Sith flocked to Medriaas to volunteer for the Sith ritual.
They joined the ritual on their own but Vitiate overrode their wills as the ritual progressed, to prevent there escape.
Originally posted by Syndicate
Tbf Legend Revan does say that he fell victim to Vitiate's mental influence because he was not aware of his tricks and that after experiencing it he was capable of teaching Scourge and Meetra how to defend against it ( in mid combat if not against prolonged mental attacks by Vitiate ).
However, should we assume that Vitiate's understanding of Telepathy remained static? It would have grown with passage of time. So whether Revan's countermeasures would have remained effective for indefinite period or not, is open to debate.
RoTE and KoTFE story arcs demonstrate Vitiate's progress in the domain of Telepathy.