RotJ Sidious vs. TOR Vitiate (TP battle)

Beefy judged Sidious's feats before admitting he didn't know what they were? mmm

Anyway, Lusankya is one of the most potent feats in all the mythology.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Beefy judged Sidious's feats before admitting he didn't know what they were? mmm

Anyway, Lusankya is one of the most potent feats in all the mythology.

I needed a reminder, I know what they were. Now shush, adults are talking. I'm not sure you can take anymore humiliation from any of your posts. 😂

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
How did he "enslave" them again? For 20 years they lived out their lives just fine.

^ "Byss and the Deep Core"

^ The Essential Atlas

Almost mindless? Lol. Sounds like you described a force drain with the possibility of some kind of TP since they were "almost" mindless.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Almost mindless? Lol. Sounds like you described a force drain with the possibility of some kind of TP since they were "almost" mindless.

Yeah, he used telepathy to enslave them and then drain to leech their life energies.

But they're almost mindless. And it also says "most" of the inhabitants. That means they retained some of their functions, like the ability to masturbate. Weak TP.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
But they're almost mindless. And it also says "most" of the inhabitants. That means they retained some of their functions, like the ability to masturbate. Weak TP.

Not sure what your point is. He "enslaved" the population, rendering them "almost mindless," and "most" of them endure in a "dream-like state."

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Not sure what your point is. He "enslaved" the population, rendering them "almost mindless," and "most" of them endure in a "dream-like state."

If you want a true mindrape, look at Valkorion and Nathema. There wasn't anything "almost mindless" about them. He controlled them all simultaneously. The only thing that's unclear is the number.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
If you want a true mindrape, look at Valkorion and Nathema. There wasn't anything "almost mindless" about them. He controlled them all simultaneously. The only thing that's unclear is the number.

According to Nyriss. The Old Republic Encyclopedia tells a different version: the Sith Lords that traveled to Medriaas/Nathema volunteered for the ritual, a notion reiterated by the SWTOR Codex.

Even then, Nyriss's descriptions are similar to what the sources describe as going on with Byss, they don't exactly exceed them.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
According to Nyriss. The Old Republic Encyclopedia tells a different version: the Sith Lords that traveled to Medriaas/Nathema volunteered for the ritual, a notion reiterated by the SWTOR Codex.

Even then, Nyriss's descriptions are similar to what the sources describe as going on with Byss, they don't exactly exceed them.

1. I think the Revan novel states that Vitiate mindraped them. One of those sources does. It's unclear what the truth is.

2. I meant Ziost.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Not sure what your point is. He "enslaved" the population, rendering them "almost mindless," and "most" of them endure in a "dream-like state."

And seriously, even if 80% of them are 70% mindless, that's more impressive than Ziost, lol.

Is Beefy even bothering to respond to the Lusankya feat?

Given that you're over exaggerating the feat, nah. 🙂

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
1. I think the Revan novel states that Vitiate mindraped them. One of those sources does. It's unclear what the truth is.

Yeah, that's when Nyriss tells Scourge the legend of Vitiate's origins. The codex and SWTOR Encyclopedia say differently.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
2. I meant Ziost.

Vitiate was possessing various people on Ziost to kill and feed off the death there. The Emperor was economically leeching billions of people to fuel dark side experiments in the Imperial citadel. Possession vs. telepathy: Apples and oranges, you might say. Only in this case, the orange is a lot bigger.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Given that you're over exaggerating the feat, nah. 🙂

I think most of the forum has given up responding to Ellimist. It's more of a "shake your head and sigh" situation than anything else at this point. I'm trying to talk to Gideon, not his intellectually challenged pet.

Also, I keep forgetting that Rane Kovach indicates Ziost's strength in the dark side was an element in Vitiate's whole gambit there.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Given that you're over exaggerating the feat, nah. 🙂

Well as you never responded to, it has to be that many people for it to have worked. Coruscant is dense, people talk. 👆

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Also, I keep forgetting that Rane Kovach indicates Ziost's strength in the dark side was an element in Vitiate's whole gambit there.

You'd have to prove that gave him any kind of help though. Seeing as how it appears he's both grown in power from the Shadow of Revan fiasco and seems to have perfected his ritual, it's unlikely Ziost's dark side strength did anything. Also Kovach is stating an opinion so..

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
You'd have to prove that gave him any kind of help though. Seeing as how it appears he's both grown in power from the Shadow of Revan fiasco and seems to have perfected his ritual, it's unlikely Ziost's dark side strength did anything. Also Kovach is stating an opinion so..

He's a dark sider on a dark side nexus. Why wouldn't it give him help? Kovach's briefing the player on Ziost's developments; a report to which even Lana Beniko defers.

And unlike Nyriss's opinion on Nathema, Kovach's isn't contradicted by anything.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
He's a dark sider on a dark side nexus. Why wouldn't it give him help? Kovach's briefing the player on Ziost's developments; a report to which even Lana Beniko defers.

And unlike Nyriss's opinion on Nathema, Kovach's isn't contradicted by anything.

Is he familiar with Vitiate's rituals? I think not, so he's speculating. Vitiate didn't need a nexus on Nathema, it stands to reason he doesn't need one a thousand years later when he perfected the technique.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
I think most of the forum has given up responding to Ellimist. It's more of a "shake your head and sigh" situation than anything else at this point. I'm trying to talk to Gideon, not his intellectually challenged pet.