Is The Entity from SWTOR Kreia?

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Is The Entity from SWTOR Kreia?

I can appreciate that this is BioWare's (horrible, horrible) attempt at her, but I've long denied that the Entity is Kreia.

Discuss:

Darth Baras’s rise to power has been facilitated by his enslavement of a Sith spirit known only as the Entity. Baras dominated this centuries-dead Sith into using her powers of precognition and farseeing to aid his ascendancy onto the Dark Council while plotting the destruction of all enemies in his path. The Entity chafes at her enslavement, desperately seeking freedom from this ignoble fate. Centuries ago, she nearly brought the galaxy to its knees and all but eradicated the Jedi Order; to be used as a mere political tool by Darth Baras is an insult to these past deeds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YV6TpNvBsM

Personally? I still don't believe it. In the video above, she mentions having her resting place desecrated by Baras. That can't be Kreia, since her resting place is Malachor V, which was canonically destroyed by the Mass Shadow Generator.

Well I don't know any other Force sensitive female that nearly brought the galaxy to it's knees and all but eradicated the Jedi Order centuries before TOR. Though, I guess it's ambiguous.

Drew seems to think that's her, but he has no authority over the Wrath storyline and the character models looks way more different than Kreia herself.

Welcome to SWTOR retcons, she's also responsible for leading the purge of tens of thousands of Jedi too.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Welcome to SWTOR retcons, she's also responsible for leading the purge of tens of thousands of Jedi too.

I was about to mention that. That's in the novel, right?

Yeah, SWTOR not only butchers characters but has blatant disregard for continuity. I mean, it's pretty obvious that this is an attempt at Kreia, but lord is it pitiful.

Well I figure its derived from the misinterpretation that Kreia at the end of KOTOR II was very much serious about killing the Force (which let's be honest, a lot of people on here believe), as that would explain why she "loved" the Emperor, who planned to consume all life in the galaxy. And in general the belief that Traya was 100% evil and totally not tricking the Exile into thinking that, essentially they bought the hoax. So I guess that's a plus for Kreia?

It's a plus that the Wrath seems to think that her spirit was more alive with the dark side than anything he'd ever encountered, despite him having just encountered the Voice of the Emperor and Sel-Makor on Voss. lmfao

Yeah it would make her supremely powerful by SWTOR's standards. 🙂

Yes, it's Kreia.

Great. Kreia's more powerful than Revan, now 🙂🙂🙂🙂

Still dies to Vader 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

Her teachings are still considered game changing by TOR Jedi & Sith standards.

But don't tell the TOR Brigade that.

I wonder if Senya knew about Vitiates side-floozy.

Should we start ranking the Entity against other darksiders in history? Assuming she isn't Kreia, the Wrath comparing her favorably to all other darksiders he'd experienced would put her high as **** on the scales.

But she is kreia

How does Baras enslave her, then? With some sort of trickery/ritual, or sheer power? She just mentions her resting place being desecrated.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Great. Kreia's more powerful than Revan, now 🙂🙂🙂🙂

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
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I'm referring to the Wrath claiming that the Entity is "more alive with the dark side than anything I have ever seen" - despite having just seen the Voice of the Emperor and Sel-Makor.

And I hope I don't have to explain what the smilies mean.

You mean after Kreia fell into a pit of dark side energy so thick it was literally visible as she died?

What a shocker she's powerful. 🙄

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You mean after Kreia fell into a pit of dark side energy so thick it was literally visible as she died?

What a shocker she's powerful. 🙄

What does falling into something after you die have to do with anything? And that only happens in the DS version.

Also, said pit got annihilated like, immediately.

She was screaming as she fell into the pit. She died in a pool of literal dark side energy.

LOL. What? She dies in both versions on the core. Like, the place she was standing when she fought the Exile. She has some resigned sigh/death rattle and then collapses and dies. After that, you throw her in if it's DS, canonically, however? You leave her there as the planet crumbles.

EDIT: There's no screams when she falls in, either. I watched both the normal and restored content DS version. She died before and then got thrown into the pit, which makes it irrelevant.

Not canon, either way.