Black Bolt vs. Aquaman h2h

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
All of that. Linear "weight room" strength only matters if that is the measure you are using. We are talking about functional strength, the function in this case being combat. BB's strength is excellent based on showings.

By Strength the definition j was thinking of is pure strength the type of strength where you overpower someone or are able to lift cars and etc.

Being able to hit someone and make them say "Ow" is nice but actually putting them down for the 3 count is something else all entirely.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
No, it really isn't. First of all, he's fought Gladiator evenly numerous times. Secondly, Thanos was FAKING. Third, it's doesn't matter if he was amping, 4th, neither Thor nor BB were out for the kill.

H2h? Or like most of the fights posted for him where he includes alot of AOE?

By your standards it's a suprise it doesn't matter that he was amping is it simply because of which character it is here? BB draws on outside energy he actively amps himself by calling on this energy it's more similar to Superman sun dipping. Then something that's innate. Thanos was still getting blood drawn from him and I'm hoping you actually have a scan shown to suggest Thanos was faking other then him smiling.. Didn't stop Thor from winning did it? And if I remember correctly was BB mind controlled so his Morals were more or less off compared to Thor's

Black Bolt something inhuman this way comes? Right I have that comic I'm pretty sure BB wasnt holding back against Thor if he was why amp himself? Why would he need to? Theres nothing in the dialogue to suguest he was holding back. Yet there is for Thor...

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
H2h? Or like most of the fights posted for him where he includes alot of AOE?

By your standards it's a suprise it doesn't matter that he was amping is it simply because of which character it is here? BB draws on outside energy he actively amps himself by calling on this energy it's more similar to Superman sun dipping. Then something that's innate. Thanos was still getting blood drawn from him and I'm hoping you actually have a scan shown to suggest Thanos was faking other then him smiling.. Didn't stop Thor from winning did it? And if I remember correctly was BB mind controlled so his Morals were more or less off compared to Thor's

Black Bolt something inhuman this way comes? Right I have that comic I'm pretty sure BB wasnt holding back against Thor if he was why amp himself? Why would he need to? Theres nothing in the dialogue to suguest he was holding back. Yet there is for Thor...

Disagree with everything, not that it would matter to you. I'm not repeating myself like you. I just want to say your comparison of BB using a power he readily has on tap to Superman sun dipping is so beyond comprehension it leans toward trolling.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Disagree with everything, not that it would matter to you. I'm not repeating myself like you. I just want to say your comparison of BB using a power he readily has on tap to Superman sun dipping is so beyond comprehension it leans toward trolling.

The fact that it's a power he actively uses is the point, he calling in an outside source. Superman's body can naturally absorb solar energy. I'd say suggesting BB amping himself is similar to Hulk getting stronger over time is trolling. regardless. Thor still won while showing restraint.

Carver showed Hulk oneshotting BB for crying out loud and in another instance Hulk saying their not physical equals. I don't get how you can reptively suggest they are. When there's enough to suggest otherwise.

I atleast know I'm mot alone in believing BB is Namor tier like Leonidus stated. Or that most of his fights aren't h2h like Krisblaze stated.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
By Strength the definition j was thinking of is pure strength the type of strength where you overpower someone or are able to lift cars and etc.

Being able to hit someone and make them say "Ow" is nice but actually putting them down for the 3 count is something else all entirely.

Yeah, because that's what AM does all the time, right? Like I said, functional strength is a more apt measure in a discussion of hand to hand. How much time do boxing analysts take to talk about who lifts more?

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
The fact that it's a power he actively uses is the point, he calling in an outside source. Superman's body can naturally absorb solar energy. I'd say suggesting BB amping himself is similar to Hulk getting stronger over time is trolling. regardless. Thor still won while showing restraint.

Carver showed Hulk oneshotting BB for crying out loud and in another instance Hulk saying their not physical equals. I don't get how you can reptively suggest they are. When there's enough to suggest otherwise.

I atleast know I'm mot alone in believing BB is Namor tier like Leonidus stated. Or that most of his fights aren't h2h like Krisblaze stated.

The comparison is that it's also an innate ability. Not hard to understand unless you are being contrary. Flying into space, penetrating a star and taking time to absorb energy as opposed to thinking about electron control- do the easy math.

You want people to respect your opinion, yet you aren't respecting anyone else's point in the thread which says a lot. This has become quite boring for me. You aren't actually curious, you just want to argue.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Yeah, because that's what AM does all the time, right? Like I said, functional strength is a more apt measure in a discussion of hand to hand. How much time do boxing analysts take to talk about who lifts more?

It doesn't necessarily have to be all the time but he atleast has feats of him lifting objects that are extreme in weight, Hell so does Thing, Ironman, Namor, Thor, Hulk, Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Wonderman, etc.

You know who don't have feats weighing in the several thousand tons? Batman. However he has feats where he's beating up Heralds h2h trading strikes with them.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
There comparison is that it's an innate agility. Not hard to understand unless you are being contrary. Flying into space, penetrating a star and talking time to absorb energy as opposed to thinking about electron control- do the math.

I get the difference it's just a closer example then BB and Hulk. It's not innate at all though the energy he's attributing to himself comes from an outside source he just happens to have gear to absorb it. His physicals before he absorbs energy is at its natural levels he honestly can't get stronger unless he actively tries to absorb energy. Hulk it just happens during battle. Regardless his physical feats after amping himself is a bit in question to me though.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I get the difference it's just a closer example then BB and Hulk. It's not innate at all though the energy he's attributing to himself comes from an outside source he just happens to have gear to absorb it. His physicals before he absorbs energy is at its natural levels he honestly can't get stronger unless he actively tries to absorb energy. Hulk it just happens during battle. Regardless his physical feats after amping himself is a bit in question to me though.

The outside source is damn air. He sucks an endless supply of electrons through the air with little effort. It's nothing like what Superman does who has to fly to space to get to the source. Let's see Superman amp WHILE engaged in battle because that's no problem for Bolt. Your argument is bankrupt.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
The outside source is damn air. He sucks an endless supply of electrons through the air with little effort. It's nothing like what Superman does who has to fly to space to get to the source. Let's see Superman amp WHILE engaged in battle because that's no problem for Bolt. Your argument is bankrupt.

I guess it's up to the OP to say whether it's allowed or not.

What h2h feats does BB have amping himself other then the Thor one?

Superman has amped in battle... At least preboot, anyway.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman has amped in battle... At least preboot, anyway.

But has he actually sun dipped in battle while battling? That's what we are talking about. That's what BB and Hulk do.

I reread War of Kings atleast up into the point of the wedding interruption and that Gladiator fight is short as hell.

The Despero fight is pretty similar if not better since Aquaman didn't get physically beat by Despero. I wasn't even suggesting Aquaman was as strong as Despero just that he's been shown to be able to fight him..

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman has amped in battle... At least preboot, anyway.

There's an instance in the New52 where he's fighting Lex and amps to.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I reread War of Kings atleast up into the point of the wedding interruption and that Gladiator fight is short as hell.

The Despero fight is pretty similar if not better since Aquaman didn't get physically beat by Despero. I wasn't even suggesting Aquaman was as strong as Despero just that he's been shown to be able to fight him..

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Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
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Regardless what feats does an amped BB have in h2h?

Stop. It's not at all obvious when he has amped.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Stop. It's not at all obvious when he has amped.

BB or SM? I really don't know what I'm doing that I should stop..

In Superman 21, Lex was beating up Supes with his usual Warsuit with red sun weps and etc and Superman goes to amp

If you were talking about Superman.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
But has he actually sun dipped in battle while battling? That's what we are talking about. That's what BB and Hulk do.

Seeing as how he would have to leave the atmosphere to sundip, no, he hasn't done that. He's just amped by pulling in extra solar energy as he's gotten angrier, amping him.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
New52 Action Comics 21.

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Regardless what feats does an amped BB have in h2h?

I'd look at that as more of a recharge, tbh.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Seeing as how he would have to leave the atmosphere to sundip, no, he hasn't done that. He's just amped by pulling in extra solar energy as he's gotten angrier, amping him.

I'd look at that as more of a recharge, tbh.

Its fair I think he means being able to amp without leaving the battlefield which is a better way to say it rather then having amped during a fight. I think the way BB amps himself though is more external then it is internal to be honest I don't get how it would be thought differently. If he's able to do it here though I'm completely fine with just curious to his feats using it. If it's actually limitless and where he stands at a base level.

In regards to the thread I'm wondering more about BB though. Does the character have any lifting strength feats, are feats taken out of context, whats his best feats h2h being amped stuff like that. That have yet to be answered.