Aquaman gets the most hate on this forum. The guy is a monster who is physically above BB. Black bolt is beastly, no doubt but Aquaman is on another level physically imo. BB took on Hulk...nice showing. Fought Gladiator, nice showing. Aquaman took on Superman, Wonder Woman, Hercules, Cheetah, Darkseid (with a team of course); the list goes on. I'm giving him the lead.
Originally posted by carver9
Aquaman gets the most hate on this forum. The guy is a monster who is physically above BB. Black bolt is beastly, no doubt but Aquaman is on another level physically imo. BB took on Hulk...nice showing. Fought Gladiator, nice showing. Aquaman took on Superman, Wonder Woman, Hercules, Cheetah, Darkseid (with a team of course); the list goes on. I'm giving him the lead.
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Aquaman is...Aquanman. He's not meant to be taken that seriously. Taken on who? When, in the last 15 minutes? D.C. is trying to make him something he's not and never was. I'm surprised to see you buy in so eagerly to this orange body shirt wearing wanna be. Let's get serious, if Superman isn't playing around with him, he's ****ing toast. Gladiator DOESN'T play around with Black Bolt and he more than holds his own.
taking someone on and beating them are totally different things. ben has taken on hulk countless times but is no where close to hulk in strength. there is no way they are in different tiers and i LIKE aquaman. h2h would be extremely close. bb has also battled evenly h2h with thor and seemed superior to namor. even's even battled the sphinx and held his own. and don't forget this:
http://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23374/3368513-infinity+004-014.jpg
he appears here to have actually stopped, or at least partially stopped, a po'd thanos's punch. tbh i do NOT see am being capable of that feat.
bb has fought evenly with people at least as impressive as am has and has some clean wins against some high tier opponents where am has few wins, but rather was able to hang in battles that were mostly very short and not really fights for his life.
bb has this for maybe 6-7/10
Originally posted by krisblaze
Black Bolt can't really fight Gladiator or Hulk hand to hand though.Both those fights involved the use of his voice, especially his bouts with the Hulk.
i'd disagree here. he could fight both for prolonged lengths of time. could be beat them h2h? no, not likely, but he could def hang for a long while. in the same way AM could never beat ww or superman h2h but could last for a bit.
Originally posted by leonidas
i'd disagree here. he could fight both for prolonged lengths of time. could be beat them h2h? no, not likely, but he could def hang for a long while. in the same way AM could never beat ww or superman h2h but could last for a bit.
In his first fight with the Savage Hulk he punched him once and then used energy attacks for their remaining 4-5 exchanges.
In their second fight I don't believe he went physical at all.
Originally posted by krisblaze
That's simply not true though.In his first fight with the Savage Hulk he punched him once and then used energy attacks for their remaining 4-5 exchanges.
In their second fight I don't believe he went physical at all.
eh? they grappled briefly in the first fight. the second one was the one where bolt used lightning to ko him i think. the third fight was this one i think (order could be backwards):
http://i.imgur.com/qV1sqcv.png
of course he's not beating hulk in h2h. but he's got as good or a better chance against hulk than AM has against ww or superman....
bolt is not top tier in strength, but he's close and his battles bear it out over and over again.
Originally posted by leonidas
eh? they grappled briefly in the first fight. the second one was the one where bolt used lightning to ko him i think. the third fight was this one i think (order could be backwards):http://i.imgur.com/qV1sqcv.png
of course he's not beating hulk in h2h. but he's got as good or a better chance against hulk than AM has against ww or superman....
bolt is not top tier in strength, but he's close and his battles bear it out over and over again.
That was the one punch I referred to.
Black Bolt was very clearly his inferior.
That was in no way a showing that puts him above New 52 Aquaman.
Bolt's showings are very limited and they almost always involve his fork glowing or empowering him in some way.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlackBolt01Annual1.jpg.html
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlackBolt02.jpg.html
Read the narration in the second scan there. Hulk is crushing his hands for christsakes.
Originally posted by leonidas
i'd disagree here. he could fight both for prolonged lengths of time. could be beat them h2h? no, not likely, but he could def hang for a long while. in the same way AM could never beat ww or superman h2h but could last for a bit.
The Glads fight, BB did do well (and eventually resorted to his voice) but when he fought Hulk and went h2h, he got taken out in a single hit.
Here is the single hit fight.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsInhumans01Inhumans12.jpg.html
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsInhumans02.jpg.html
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsInhumans03.jpg.html
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsInhumans04.jpg.html
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsInhumans05.jpg.html
Black Bolt bolt was helpless...body was limp and Hulk overpowered the entirety of the team including Bolt.
Then we have this...
Then there other fightx Hulk was about to crush the life from him until Bolt got desperate and used his voice. I think Aquaman would get his spleen snatched out by Hulk as well but this easily? Naah.
Originally posted by leonidas
eh? they grappled briefly in the first fight. the second one was the one where bolt used lightning to ko him i think. the third fight was this one i think (order could be backwards):http://i.imgur.com/qV1sqcv.png
of course he's not beating hulk in h2h. but he's got as good or a better chance against hulk than AM has against ww or superman....
bolt is not top tier in strength, but he's close and his battles bear it out over and over again.
Hulk got up right after that punch and one shot koed Bolt.
Originally posted by leonidas
that one showing? of course it doesn't. but all his battles collectively do. least imo.
He throws a few punches while his energy attacks do all the work.
I'd say even The Thing is Black Bolt's superior in the physical department.
You put him above New 52 Aquaman.
Just how strong do you think Black Bolt is? Stronger than Herc and Thor then?
you show that, i show this:
http://fdzeta.com/subir/images/UiN.jpg
http://fdzeta.com/subir/images/aNPEv.jpg
http://fdzeta.com/subir/images/nvhUP.jpg
he completely tanked hulk's shot, and stunned hulk with a single blow before going on to beat him using his voice.
you're acting like i said bolt is as strong as hulk. obviously he isn't. but he doesn't have to be because AM is a long way off of hulk too. bb also has the better durability feats imo. like i said, this would be close, but i'd still take bolt. 6/10 sounds about right to me but it is close enough that i could see someone saying 6/10 the other way. no one gets a large majority though.
Originally posted by krisblaze
What showings?He throws a few punches while his energy attacks do all the work.
I'd say even The Thing is Black Bolt's superior in the physical department.
You put him above New 52 Aquaman.
Just how strong do you think Black Bolt is? Stronger than Herc and Thor then?
ben? i' say he's stronger than ben by decent amount, but ben has hung for prolonged periods against several of marvel's strongest so using ben as a gauge isn't exactly insulting. i'd say he's as strong as namor. that is somewhere between ben and herc. strong enough to last in h2h against most, but not able to win in straight h2h against the real strongmen.
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk got up right after that punch and one shot koed Bolt.
wut?
and again, the question wasn't did hulk get up. if you think AM has the better h2h feats, show them and we'll compare how they've done against strongmen. i've got no problem at all comparing them. i have all of the 52 AM books and would love to see you find the feats you think would stack up against bolt's.
Originally posted by leonidas
wut?and again, the question wasn't did hulk get up. if you think AM has the better h2h feats, show them and we'll compare how they've done against strongmen. i've got no problem at all comparing them. i have all of the 52 AM books and would love to see you find the feats you think would stack up against bolt's.
You posting that Black Bolt and Hulk showing is like me posting this...
I can post Aquaman having a prolong fight against Diana as well or him hanging with and beating Hercules.
Originally posted by leonidas
ben? i' say he's stronger than ben by decent amount, but ben has hung for prolonged periods against several of marvel's strongest so using ben as a gauge isn't exactly insulting. i'd say he's as strong as namor. that is somewhere between ben and herc. strong enough to last in h2h against most, but not able to win in straight h2h against the real strongmen.
Okay then I think we wildly disagree on how strong Black Bolt is 😛
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
😆Aquaman is...Aquanman. He's not meant to be taken that seriously. Taken on who? When, in the last 15 minutes? D.C. is trying to make him something he's not and never was. I'm surprised to see you buy in so eagerly to this orange body shirt wearing wanna be. Let's get serious, if Superman isn't playing around with him, he's ****ing toast. Gladiator DOESN'T play around with Black Bolt and he more than holds his own.
How does trading punches with someone make you their physical equal.
You can't say just because Black Bolt can trade blows with Hulk so they share the same strength feats. Unless he stalemates Hulk in a grapple or Overpowers him he's not physically equal or superior to Hulk.
Sending someone flying doesn't make you someone's equal. Aquaman has sent Superman flying in a pretty famous scan (Say what you Wan about holding back but that doesn't change your durability), he's sent Martian Manhunter flying with a punch, as well as sent Despero and Hercules flying with a punch.
In actual strength feats I'm pretty sure Aquaman has the better ones.
In actual fights against characters it might be pretty evened out
In durability Aquaman has the better feats all around ironically
considering
Piercing Durability ironically Aquaman has a edge
Speed should be pretty even
The only edge BB has is in power output via his voice and that's not being used here
