Black Bolt vs. Aquaman h2h

Originally posted by Cogito
Are you kidding? People are taking Arthur more seriously in this thread than I've literally ever seen him taken 😐

I mean, people are legitimately comparing his strength to Superman and WW ffs

Originally posted by leonidas
that's what i was thinking..... 😐

I was mostly speaking about BAV and STILT being tools (among others), but it goes the other way too, rating him more highly than he deserves.

He's (imo) around WW level since the reboot, if not a tiny bit below it.

I'd like to see one Aquaman thread where people could actually debate the character, not act like retards trying to be cool and edgy.

Originally posted by Cogito
Aquaman does not really hurt herald-busters except to poke them with his trident (e.g. Darkseid's eye).

And don't bother pulling out a scan that contradicts what I just said. If you do, I'll start pulling out scans of a batkick hurting heralds. Everyone gets a little something something once in a while to make them seem useful.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Lol. Makes a statement then says don't bother proving me wrong cause I won't accept it.

A bit biast don't you think..

Difference is in Batman's title he generally tends to struggle against street characters, even in the JL from time to time he does as well. Sure there's a few popular scans from time to time again but consistency doesn't favor Batman.

Whereas New52 Aquaman has consistently been suggested as a pier to New52 Diana and actually has physical strength showings above Batman. Heck Diana doesn't have much strength showings in the New52 the only one I can think of is the ship one from TOA and I'd put the Trench feat above that. Hell even Pre-Flashpoint he has alot of insane showings moreso then New52 in a solo or team setting. Whereas alot of these team showings Batman is convienently missing for a reason.

I'm really not sure what you are trying to get at. AM in no way busts herald busters and the very notion is beyond ridiculous. BB >> AM, always has. AM would not embarrass himself, but he'd come up short.

Originally posted by krisblaze
What is a "herald-buster" ?

Think he meant Herald or characters who wreck teams of Heralds but that's an interesting term

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I'm really not sure what you are trying to get at. AM in no way busts herald busters and the very notion is beyond ridiculous. BB >> AM, always has. AM would not embarrass himself, but he'd come up short.

That's a nice statement but you have yet to prove it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I was mostly speaking about BAV and STILT being tools (among others), but it goes the other way too, rating him more highly than he deserves.

He's (imo) around WW level since the reboot, if not a tiny bit below it.

I'd like to see one Aquaman thread where people could actually debate the character, not act like retards trying to be cool and edgy.

"Hey, this is not the place for insults and it will not be tolerate by anyone except for me, all high and might liaison to the admin." Give me a freaking break, PR. You only get pissy when you feel the need to protect D.C., characters.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Lol. Makes a statement then says don't bother proving me wrong cause I won't accept it.

A bit biast don't you think..

Difference is in Batman's title he generally tends to struggle against street characters, even in the JL from time to time he does as well. Sure there's a few popular scans from time to time again but consistency doesn't favor Batman.

Whereas New52 Aquaman has consistently been suggested as a pier to New52 Diana and actually has physical strength showings above Batman. Heck Diana doesn't have much strength showings in the New52 the only one I can think of is the ship one from TOA and I'd put the Trench feat above that. Hell even Pre-Flashpoint he has alot of insane showings moreso then New52 in a solo or team setting. Whereas alot of these team showings Batman is convienently missing for a reason.

Aquaman is one of my favorite characters, so don't color me biased against him.

I just know where he stands in the physcial prowess hierarchy. And it's way below WW, always has been, and always will be. Statements that put them in a group amongst the most powerful on Earth do not mean that Aquaman can hang with WW in the strength department.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I was mostly speaking about BAV and STILT being tools (among others), but it goes the other way too, rating him more highly than he deserves.

He's (imo) around WW level since the reboot, if not a tiny bit below it.

I'd like to see one Aquaman thread where people could actually debate the character, not act like retards trying to be cool and edgy.

To be honest there's probably categories where AM edges her in the New52. Like Piercing Durability and Lifting Strength and then the ones where she edges him would probably be primarily Speed and h2h.

Pre52 Diana beats him in lifting strength though

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
That's a nice statement but you have yet to prove it.

It's proven by their two histories. You want me to post their entire histories? How about you admit AM hasn't does shit to herald busters outside of his plot device Trident.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
To be honest there's probably categories where AM edges her in the New52. Like Piercing Durability and Lifting Strength and then the ones where she edges him would probably be primarily Speed and h2h.

Pre52 Diana beats him in lifting strength though

And this thread is about hand to hand. I can't believe there are AM fanboys, what is the world coming to?

Originally posted by Cogito
Aquaman is one of my favorite characters, so don't color me biased against him.

I just know where he stands in the physcial prowess hierarchy. And it's way below WW, always has been, and always will be. Statements that put them in a group amongst the most powerful on Earth do not mean that Aquaman can hang with WW in the strength department.

Its one thing to say your a fan of a character and then show you don't know much about him. Consistently in the New52 he's been a pier to Diana pretty much ever since Flashpoint.

Hell even Pre-Flashpoint he had pretty insane feats that would discount your notion whether it be a short scuffle with Lobo, Titus, Amazo, beating on the JL, or Despero. Overpowering an all-Knowing which one of those things beat up Powergirl, or even his fights in stuff like Panic in the Sky by statement or Power scaling feats like in the 80s suicide squad run.

I'm still waiting for stuff on BB though.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Its one thing to say your a fan of a character and then show you don't know much about him. Consistently in the New52 he's been a pier to Diana pretty much ever since Flashpoint.

Hell even Pre-Flashpoint he had pretty insane feats that would discount your notion whether it be a short scuffle with Lobo, Titus, Amazo, beating on the JL, or Despero. Overpowering an all-Knowing which one of those things beat up Powergirl, or even his fights in stuff like Panic in the Sky by statement or Power scaling feats like in the 80s suicide squad run.

I'm still waiting for stuff on BB though.

I'm waiting for you to comment on the posts of him I've already posted, other than the lame little dig you attempted regarding the Hulk scan. Gladiator would have beaten the **** out of AM.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
It's proven by their two histories. You want me to post their entire histories? How about you admit AM hasn't does shit to herald busters outside of his plot device Trident.

Would you like me to post him beating up Heralds and team busters just h2h? His Trident didn't really become a consistent item for him until Johns, Parker came on to the title and stressed the idea that he really doesn't need it.

I'd say BB is more dependent on his voice or AOE attacks when he's fighting Heralds then Aquaman is with his trident.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I'm waiting for you to comment on the posts of him I've already posted, other than the lame little dig you attempted regarding the Hulk scan. Gladiator would have beaten the **** out of AM.

The Gladiator that was fighting BB wouldn't have...

BB hit Hulk once and started off with an AOE attack and still had to hit a weakpoint which was given in the full scan, but sure less pretend only half the scan exist and take the statement at full value and disregard any other statements we dislike makes you look ignorant mate,

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Would you like me to post him beating up Heralds and team busters just h2h? His Trident didn't really become a consistent item for him until Johns, Parker came on to the title and stressed the idea that he really doesn't need it.

I'd say BB is more dependent on his voice or AOE attacks when he's fighting Heralds then Aquaman is with his trident.

You can post whatever you want.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
The Gladiator that was fighting BB wouldn't have...

BB hit Hulk once and started off with an AOE attack and still had to hit a weakpoint.

Sorry, there's only one Gladiator with a Mohawk in Marvel.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
The Gladiator that was fighting BB wouldn't have..

That's got to be one of the lamest excuses I've heard in a long while. With regard to the weak point, are you suggesting BB doesn't have the power to knock back heralds including Hulk unless he is hitting a weak point? Please say you are. He's knocked back Namor, Hulk, Gladiator, Thor, Ikaris, Thing, etc. He didn't need a weak point to send them flying. What a pathetic attempt by you to discredit.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
"Hey, this is not the place for insults and it will not be tolerate by anyone except for me, all high and might liaison to the admin." Give me a freaking break, PR. You only get pissy when you feel the need to protect D.C., characters.

Really, the guy who regularly ignores mods, then reports people for doing the same thing he does, is going to lecture me about behaviour?

By all means, continue. It's not my fault you have a rampant hate for DC.

And the funny this, I most likely like Marvel more than you do, to boot.

Well here's my New52 post I'll go on the fact that you suggest Aquaman was never at a certain level.

Strength: Grappling with Frankenstein (Same guy who physically restrained Shazam who had to resort to AOE go break out)

http://imgur.com/QbYi4Im

Takes the Dead King's scepter attack (Last time the DK used this it destroyed Atlantis as a continent)

http://imgur.com/a/Opunl

Speed Blitzes Ocean Master
http://imgur.com/6tHTZp1

Aquaman vs Hercules (New52 Shazam us stated to have the strength of Hercules)

http://imgur.com/a/sZXPv

Originally posted by -Pr-
Really, the guy who regularly ignores mods, then reports people for doing the same thing he does, is going to lecture me about behaviour?

By all means, continue. It's not my fault you have a rampant hate for DC.

And the funny this, I most likely like Marvel more than you do, to boot.

But you are a pseudo mod attacking posters and dry snitching because you don't like their opinions. Congrats to that. And it's behavior, not behaviour.