Darth Vader vs Dooku (Force only)

Starkiller obliterated the frigate instantly once he saw Juno is next to Vader. He had no time to charge up his power.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Completely outdated quote.

So is Vader being 4/5s of Sidious. Which is why I'm arguing neither quote should be used for validity.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Lucas was referring to TPM Maul at the time LMAO.

This is relevant, why? While Maul does grow in power, I don't neccessarily think it's by any substantial margin to suddenly mark him a tier ahead of his TPM self.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Vader is in another league to TCW Maul let alone TPM Maul.

Lucas disagrees. 👆

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Starkiller obliterated the frigate instantly once he saw Juno is next to Vader. He had no time to charge up his power.

I didn't say he charged it up. But he did use more effort than the Count, yes? The rest of my response will come later.

DC, did you just make this thread to bait us out?

Originally posted by SunRazer DC, did you just make this thread to bait us out?

Yep. I wanted to take on you and Wollf regarding this topic for quite sometime now....trying to take out two birds with one stone. 🙂

ily both, tho. <3

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Yep. I wanted to take on you and Wollf regarding this topic for quite sometime now....trying to take out two birds with one stone. 🙂

ily both, tho. <3

Ah, well, in that case, I'll suspend my response until tomorrow.

Do does the cruiser feat put Dooku closer to Vader now?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Do does the cruiser feat put Dooku closer to Vader now?

I'd assume so.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
ily both, tho. <3

😍

I mean, it might actually put him above Galen Marek, who was flabbergasted at the idea of redirecting a falling star destroyer. Dooku was able to fling around cruisers so he could probably pull that off.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
I mean, it might actually put him above Galen Marek.

lel

Originally posted by The Ellimist
I mean, it might actually put him above Galen Marek, who was flabbergasted at the idea of redirecting a falling star destroyer. Dooku was able to fling around cruisers so he could probably pull that off.

Yeah, even at absolute best the cruisers are less than half the size of an ISD.

Originally posted by MythLord
So is Vader being 4/5s of Sidious. Which is why I'm arguing neither quote should be used for validity.

You're right. Nowadays it's closer to 5/5s.

Originally posted by MythLord
This is relevant, why? While Maul does grow in power, I don't neccessarily think it's by any substantial margin to suddenly mark him a tier ahead of his TPM self.

Because these little power ups add up to the point where Vader is on another level to Maul.

Originally posted by MythLord
Lucas disagrees. 👆

No he doesn't.

Not only are you quoting him out of context, but Filoni is protective over Vader's powerset (putting him clearly above Maul and Dooku) because that's the way Lucas wanted it.

Either way Lucas isn't in charge anymore. Vader is in a league of his own above Maul and Dooku.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
You're right. Nowadays it's closer to 5/5s.

Is that why Sidious can do anything Vader can do, with more ease, while showing far less of his power?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Because these little power ups add up to the point where Vader is on another level to Maul.

No they don't, lmao. There's no reason to assume Maul would improve vastly, or even significantly, by being a hermit and living underground. That'd still make Rebels Maul three notches above TPM Maul and a notch below Vader, but in the same tier.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
No he doesn't.

Not only are you quoting him out of context, but Filoni is protective over Vader's powerset (putting him clearly above Maul and Dooku) because that's the way Lucas wanted it.

Either way Lucas isn't in charge anymore. Vader is in a league of his own above Maul and Dooku.

LMAO. There is no context, he says Vader is more comparable to Maul or Dooku, than Sidious. If people want to throw around Vader being 80% of Sidious cuz Lucas said so, then lets all say Dooku and Maul are near equal to Vader cuz Lucas said so.

I do hope you realize I believe neither quote is valid and Vader is clearly > Maul and Dooku in power. I'm simply pointing out the double standards users have on this forum.

Thor's been trying to find a Sith to take Sheev down a peg for years lmao. He hates the fact that Sheev is smarter, more powerful, and better than Maul and Dooku.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Thor's been trying to find a Sith to take Sheev down a peg for years lmao. He hates the fact that Sheev is smarter, more powerful, and better than Maul and Dooku.

You turn into Quanchi to troll me every time I mention Palpatine. I mean seriously this post of yours sounds exactly like something Quanchi would write about me.

I've never once said any of those guys beats Palpatine in a Lightsaber fight. So calm down.

The only thing I said recently is that Vader is arguably more powerful than ANY Jedi or Sith when looking at how he Solos Rebel fleets Via his Piloting abilities. I haven't seen the likes of Yoda, Mace or Sidious do that. And they don't have the piloting accolades to suggest they could do that either.

I'm only praising Vader's new found feats and accolades under Disney. And I've certainly not singled Palaptine out as being his inferior in this assessment.

New flash Tempest: Not everything's about Palpatine.

Originally posted by Darth Thor

New flash Tempest: Not everything's about Palpatine.

This. Jesus Christ.

Tempest: Jesus is nothing to the One True Sheev.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Yeah, even at absolute best the cruisers are less than half the size of an ISD.

Yeah, but Dooku was throwing them around while Galen had to put every ounce of himself into just redirecting a falling ISD.

I dunno, I still have Dooku < Galen, but this makes it interesting.

^ Where was Dooku throwing Cruises around?