Tarzan vs Captain America

Originally posted by Silent Master
The videos you posted actually proved my point. so, thank you

Originally posted by Surtur
The 1930's movies were horrible.

Originally posted by Kotor3
No they don't.

Yes, they do and no amount of your crying will change the truth. you can complain about the limits of 1930 level special effects all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that those effects are what we judge the feats by.

Originally posted by Kotor3
Disagree. They are classic movies. Great for their time.

Go rewatch some of them, especially when Tarzan wrestles a "crocodile".

I mean I'm sure at the time when they came out they were awesome, but people had some insanely low standards back then.

As usual, anybody going against Cap gets totally undersold and Cap gets wanked. This would be a good fight imo. Cap would probably win.... but it's no stomp

Cap wins.

Originally posted by Kotor3
Shield, I agree but punch no. It would have to be well placed. That is a reach for animal with reflexes of a lion.

The feat with Tarzan is great from my perspective because all he had was a knife.

Cap and Red Skull were about equal in the first film, Red Skull dented Cap's steel kiteshield with a punch. Imo, Cap could kill or at least incapacitate a lion with a single punch or kick if he went all out.

That's only using TFA feats, Cap only improved in the following films.

Give Cap a knife and he'd easily kill a lion, a pride of them.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes, they do and no amount of your crying will change the truth. you can complain about the limits of 1930 level special effects all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that those effects are what we judge the feats by.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes, they do and no amount of your crying will change the truth. you can complain about the limits of 1930 level special effects all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that those effects are what we judge the feats by.

Originally posted by Surtur
Go rewatch some of them, especially when Tarzan wrestles a "crocodile".

I mean I'm sure at the time when they came out they were awesome, but people had some insanely low standards back then.

If that scene was done by today's standards with the special effects we have now I'm sure it would be on a whole different level.

Originally posted by Robtard
Cap and Red Skull were about equal in the first film, Red Skull dented Cap's steel kiteshield with a punch. Imo, Cap could kill or at least incapacitate a lion with a single punch or kick if he went all out.

That's only using TFA feats, Cap only improved in the following films.

Give Cap a knife and he'd easily kill a lion, a pride of them.

I don't see Capt getting killed by a lion or two but he is not Spiderman. That level can stomp a few lions not Capts.

Of course we can compare a movie from 1930 to one made today, that is what we do on debate boards.

Originally posted by Kotor3
Well, we can't compare a 1930s move to today's standards. I'm sure movies made now won't seem so awesome years from now especially in the special effects department.

If that scene was done by today's standards with the special effects we have now I'm sure it would be on a whole different level.

What? Just the acting itself is awful, it's not just the special effects. Movies were just..different back then. The bar was set pretty low and they were all super excited they could even have sound in a film. That was a big deal for them.

It's like when CGI graphics first game out and we were ALL amazed at the shit it could do at the time and yet looking back it looks kind of..meh. Or for a more recent example you have the 3D craze, look how well Avatar did and it's quite honestly a terrible film if you judge it on anything other than visuals.

Some movies hold up well and some do not. The 1982 version of "The Thing" still holds up well IMO. On the other hand the 1977 version of Star Wars kind of looks like shit.

Originally posted by Kotor3
I can't agree with your statement. Two lions fine but a pride of them and easily no way. You are not giving lions their due credit.

I don't see Capt getting killed by a lion or two but he is not Spiderman. That level can stomp a few lions not Capts.

You know cap beat spiderman right? He beat a prepped spidey who was given knowledge to beat him.

Originally posted by Surtur
What? Just the acting itself is awful, it's not just the special effects. Movies were just..different back then. The bar was set pretty low and they were all super excited they could even have sound in a film. That was a big deal for them.

It's like when CGI graphics first game out and we were ALL amazed at the shit it could do at the time and yet looking back it looks kind of..meh. Or for a more recent example you have the 3D craze, look how well Avatar did and it's quite honestly a terrible film if you judge it on anything other than visuals.

Some movies hold up well and some do not. The 1982 version of "The Thing" still holds up well IMO. On the other hand the 1977 version of Star Wars kind of looks like shit.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
You know cap beat spiderman right? He beat a prepped spidey who was given knowledge to beat him.

Also, what knowledge or prep was Spidey given, advanced training? Please explain.

Iron Man gave Spidey tips on how to beat Cap. He told him so during the fight.

"Iron Man say anything about me?"

-Spidey takes him down-

"Yeah, go for your legs!"

The Cap/SM fight was an example of how intelligence+skill+tactics can overcome physical superiority.

Though SM should be smarter than Cap, he's still green and doesn't have the skills or tactics that Cap has.

Originally posted by KingD19
Iron Man gave Spidey tips on how to beat Cap. He told him so during the fight.

"Iron Man say anything about me?"

-Spidey takes him down-

"Yeah, go for your legs!"

Okay, let me reiterate. Iron Man. One of the smartest men on the planet, and until that point, one of Cap's closest friends and battle buddies needed to take him down. Don't you think he'd tell Spidey every scrap of information he knew about how to beat Captain Mutherf*cking America?