Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Vader viewed his old self as weak in the first place - just like all Sith do. Skywalker was controlled by his emotions while Vader has them in check.It's similar to how Dooku reflected his old self as weak because" the light side was inferior to the dark side" according to Palpatine's corruptive teachings.
The ROTS novel's ending and the numerous quotes saying Vader is a shadow of his former self is sufficient evidence, in my eyes.
Or, simply applying logic you find Skywalker wielding the raw power of the Father, yet Vader's raw power is probably inferior to Revan's. Do the math.
Ok.
Oh, from when Vader was first put in his suit? lol
Raw power doesn't equate to actual power.
The quotes I provided should be sufficient proof that Vader>Anakin, which is a widely accepted truth among most star wars fans. Keep making up excuses though 👆
Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul can't kill Vader you moron because he doesn't die until Rotj. Context clearly matters. Just because Windu dies after he beats Sidious doesn't mean he didn't beat Sidious without Anakin's interference. Was Kenobi in his prime in ANH ? Why would Maul be in his prime out of practice and decades older ? Is Michael Jordan in his prime now ? Do you seriously have a clue ?
Originally posted by Rebel95I disagree. We will see but Vader isn't in his prime that doesn't mean Maul is. Was Yoda in his prime in ESB ? 😂
Uhh yeah, I know that... Maul will still lose in a fair fight. Michael Jordan isn't a force user. Force users can be in their primes at a much older age, in case you haven't noticed lol
If you have proof Maul is in his prime by a Star Wars creator feel free to share.
Originally posted by Rebel95
Raw power doesn't equate to actual power.
For Skywalker, in many ways, it does. Much of his skills and power is rooted in his Chosen One potential. The novelization made this clear.
The only thing holding back said power is his own emotions, and even then it can leak through, as seen mid-way through the Dooku fight.
The quotes I provided should be sufficient proof that Vader>Anakin, which is a widely accepted truth among most star wars fans. Keep making up excuses though.
Also, I find that funny when you've attacked Revan many times, despite the fact he's widely accepted among Star Wars fans as being more powerful than your wildest dreams.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree. We will see but Vader isn't in his prime that doesn't mean Maul is. Was Yoda in his prime in ESB ? 😂If you have proof Maul is in his prime by a Star Wars creator feel free to share.
Originally posted by quanchi112
What does common sense tell you ?
Originally posted by Rebel95yBeing out of practice means you aren't at your best. Wtf reality do you live in ? So you ignore what you see and pretend he's at his best because you want to believe that. Bias. Sidious wasn't at his best in Rotj we clearly see his reaction time is awful to let a one handed cyborg toss him to his death with precog.
Well, aside from using the cane (which I believe was a bluff), he doesn't seem to have lost any of his power. And his being out of practice doesn't mean anything considering the fact that Sheev was too, after ROTS. Maul could have been studying and growing his power in other ways just like Sidious was.
Originally posted by Rebel95Based off what ? Being tossed to his doom and not doing any significant harm to Luke. Yeah, that makes sense. Being out of practice equals prime.
Rotj Sidious>Rots Sidious. I think that's pretty widely accepted, at least on this forum. Calm down, my god, I'm not pretending anything I'm just saying that's what could be.